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RE: Bitshares Angelshares allocation. What to expect from EOS ICO.
I'm going to be really, really choked if Dan snubs STEEM and BTS and makes us all buy ETH to participate in the ICO. Really??? I'm going to have to sell STEEM/BTS/BTC and buy ETH to get EOS? Why in the hell would Dan want to boost the liquidity and market cap of ETH? Imagine the huge liquidity that would flow into and through BTS if the EOS ICO was through BTS. It would be a massive boon for BTS. What am I missing? Why the ETH love???
Yes! I was expecting sharedrop on Steem and Bitshares stake holders. There was time, than Birshares considered a sharedrop platform, it was part of its selling point! Who cares now about 10% rule.
Oh God don't get me started on share drops. I was one of the earliest and if I don't say so myself most substantial AGS and PTS investors. I am incredibly choked at how Dan and many of the other Graphene devs have completely shit the bed on the social contract that AGS and PTS were premised on. There should absolutely have been a STEEM sharedrop on BTS and there should absolutely be an EOS sharedrop on BTS. EOS, STEEM and BTS would not exist without our AGS and PTS funding. It really is a sore spot for me.
Shout out to Peerplays for doing the right thing! You guys are awesome!
Utterly OTL, I'm confused... Can-not bitshares open ledger users buy eos steem whatever via openledger with open.btc? Have they not figured out how to do "sharedrops" in the openledger system? There would could be share drops of btsr, bitgamer, etc.. correct? Or do you have to hold the icoo coin? thx.
pls explain 10% rule
Maybe Dan wants to join forses with ETH.
a cooperative rather than competitive strategy would be a far more successful approach for the entire blockchain ecosystem...
ETH can be run inside an EOS contract; EOS will make ETH obsolete. Running the ICO on ETH is an exit strategy for several major ETH investors that are also EOS 'shareholders' (there are 100 EOS shareholders to whom the ICO proceeds will be distributed). Basically the BTS/STEEM community is getting screwed so that a few major investors can move their wealth from ETH to EOS at a profit.
I got this from @xeroc:
The audience they need to reach first and formost are smart contract developers .. and there are way more of them on ethereum
Also, once they raise millions, they can dump ETH into oblivion .. glad they wont do that to BTS (read: crowdfunding in a blockchains native token is stupid like sh***)
Mmmm... not sure I agree with Xeroc (and we've had some great debates over the years). The liquidity and visibility that would be brought to BTS and STEEM during the ICO would far outweigh any other potential drawback. And there is no way a bunch of smart people are going to 'dump ETH into oblivion' if their entire war chest is denominated in ETH. It is in fact in their interest not to dump ETH.
Using BTS and STEEM as the funding tokens would create huge demand over the next year and then lock up a bunch of liquidity with the EOS team, which would be slowly released to fund development.
read: Xeroc is wrong and crowdfunding EOS on BTS and STEEM would be awesome for both the communities and Graphene.
I think (I could be very wrong) what is going to happen is EOS is going to raise a ton of ETH in the next year. Then dump it to pay for the EOS project.
Yes, I agree they will raise a ton of ETH... but dumping is a bit overstating the market impact of selling off the ETH to fund development. ETH markets are very liquid releative to EOS overhead, won't make a dent (ie. they won't destroy ETH market cap because that would be silly if they are funded by ETH and the amount they will sell to pay the bills is so small it won't be a dump). But it will lock up a ton of ETH and inflate the market cap.
There's some head scretching going on here. What I did notice about Graphene base ICOs is they start with only Bitcoin, then latter on take BTS, BitUSD, Steem, ect. Maybe if enouth people say "I'll only buy with BTS, ect". They will open the door.