Guess who has been giving out accurate data on Global Warming?

in #environment4 years ago


It is not National Geographic or the UN- IPCC or Pacific Environment Agency or Any other scientific of research body. Its ExxonMobil

In a statement, the company said “Today’s ruling affirms the position Exxon Mobil has held throughout the New York Attorney General’s baseless investigation. We provided our investors with accurate information on the risks of climate change. ” - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/climate/exxon-climate-lawsuit-new-york.html?emc=rss&partner=rss

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So are the "investors" sadistic, greedy villains bent on killing off thousands upon thousands of men women and children living in crisis zones like the pacific islands or low lying coastal metropolis facing floods like never before?

Or they can't read and simply do not understand the concepts of "securing the future" even when given the data about how fossil fuels are rapidly changing the very air we breath?

Or Exxon Mobil had better lawyers- who were able to prove a fiction as fact that no sane and reasonably informed individual will accept?

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Well, first of all, man made global warming is a complete fraud.
It is a living tax. A tax on people living.
A scheme thought up to place another yoke on humanity.

None of the pundits for carbon taxes live a "green" life.

The truth

  • all the planets are warming up.
  • CO2 is not a greenhouse gas, and it has been much higher
  • Our planet is self balancing, if it wasn't, we would have burnt up or frozen long ago.
  • our climate is affected mostly by sun spots (sun output) and distance from the sun (where we are being pulled further from the sun by all the big planets)

Lastly, we have produced less CO2 by everybody driving than one, single, active volcano.

Man made global warming is bunk, and a scam to get people to pay a tax.
However, we should be working on cleaning up our pollution.
CO2 is not a pollutant, it is plant food.

CO2 is a greenhouse gas coz it traps heat and solar radiation in the atmosphere. Does the increased amount of CO2 in the climate affect our lifestyle? Yes- increase in temperatures, even marginal, changes the weather patterns and makes the oceans more acidic- Both these are very BAD.

We have only ONE planet so we can not afford to make mistakes which may cause irreversible harm.

Last line brother @builderofcastles even if we agree CO2 is not a pollutant we need to help stop or reverse further rise in global temperatures if we wish to save the Earth for our children.

Happy Holidays!!

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Although temperatures have fluctuated over the course of the planet history, such as previous ice ages, those fluctuations happened over 100s of years.

There is a clear spike in global temperatures in the last 100 years (blue) that can clearly be seen as a spike when compared to temperatures paleoclimate data from the pre-industrialised period (green). The rate of increase in global temperatures is roughly 30-40 times more rapid than any natural period in the Earth's history. So I don't know how people continue to deny climate change - science speaks for itself.

It is also not true that volcanoes produce more C02 than man-made phenomena.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-volcanoes-or-humans/

Volcanoes produce a total of about 200 MtCO2 annually whereas are global emissions are about 24 billion tons of CO2. Unless of course, Yellowstone blows - then we are all screwed anyway.

Ok, let's say you're 100% correct.

Are you suggesting that Corporate Pollution is not a problem?

Are you suggesting that Sea Level Rise is not a problem?

Are you suggesting that Foreign Oil dependence is not a problem?

I said none of this. So, is kinda hard to answer your query.

I said that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas, is not connected to temperature, and any tax on CO2 is a tax on people living.

Pollution is a problem. And we really need to develop better ways of manufacturing.
And, if we, the people, were really for minimizing pollution we would ban imports from China until they clean up their shit.

There is nothing we can do about the sea levels. This ice-age is not man made.
Further, since we do not know the shape of the planet or how it works we do not know if more ice or less ice effects the sea up or down.

If we had the military stop flying, driving, boating all over the planet, we would have plenty of oil in america for america.
If we started investing in real alternative energies like "real solar", geothermal and wave energy we could seriously cut our need for oil. However, this technology puts energy production into the hands of the little people, and so will be fought every step of the way by BigOil.

The vaunted Tesla electric vehicle was built out of a book published in the 70s.
Many other books published at the same time told about how to make cars engines much more efficient. What happened to all of this technology? It was shelved. It was bought up. It was made to never see the light of day.

So, from my point of view you are barking up the wrong tree.

So,

(1) We can agree that Corporate Pollution IS a problem?

(We need stricter regulations and trade deals to bolster environmental protections)

(2) And we can agree that Sea Level Rise IS a problem?

(We need to build sea barriers and or move coastal cities)

(3) And we can agree that Foreign Oil dependence IS a problem?

(We need to cut military budgets)

Have we discovered some COMMON-GROUND?

I'm willing to throw the RED-HERRING of "man-made-carbon-blah-blah-whatever" out the window as long as we can agree on these (3) critical points.

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@sarez, Nowadays it's really difficult to believe any kind of report. In my opinion most of them inspire people to self deceive. Stay blessed.

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Many Thanks.
Oil companies have been lobbying openly and behind the scenes, against restrictions and reduction of fossil fuel consumption for years- In 2013 they spent $150 Million and this does not include Super Pac spending. But the courts have not heard about any of it, - One more effect of pollution I guess.

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Welcome and thank you so much.

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