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Some of us were joking around with the idea of selling downvotes during Steemfest in light of the emerging power or influence markets on the network. Imagine that people are willing to pay to downvote something instead of upvoting. Destructive or is it strongly tending more for noble causes of saving the network? It's the free market and I think such a service could be in demand if it anonymises or isolates downvote requesters from the possibility of retaliation. It may also render the activities of value-flippers unprofitable, leaving more for the value-creators. Or maybe end up being another shitshow..

So will we see downvote mercenaries popping up soon?


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Not a good idea!!

great way for destroying the little community that's left on steem :)

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Lol. Out-of-the-box moves may yield different results :p

Didn't know there's a people like that, so what will happen if those people spreads?

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Downvoting something means more for others.. since the reward pool is limited.

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Oh I see, I thought if you downvote everyone you can still curation rewards same as you upvote someone lol

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Actually, we might need something like this to protect free speech. But instead of selling downvotes, maybe better to sell down vote insurance. Some bullies around the site think it's ok to just flag people for opinions without rational discussion.. this pushes people away from wanting to speak truth, at times.... I don't know about anonymous downvotes... That sounds like it would just enable more bullying

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The free speech approach is a bit iffy, because "protecting free speech" in the American sense means to avoid being arrested just because of something you say. In a completely voluntary system like Steemit - in which you don't have to be here, but is completely by choice - it's supposed to be understood upon entering that anything goes. Steemit, Inc provided the tools, now it's up to the community (or each individual) to use them how they deem appropriate.

it might work in a small scale, since it has no cash profit for either party, it would be used as a tool for punishing people whom post spam, scam or stupid posts.

Blackmail bot would be best first take money for downvote than take money for not to downvote boom ! profit

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Boom! best business plan ever lol

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Lmao! Crazy

I’m not a fan of the downvote but I am definitely not a fan of the pay for upvote services. I don’t think they really help minnows or make the Steem community more social. Maybe creating a bot hat posts after each upvote bot post explaining why it’s a not a good thing to do.

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That would be EPIC ! What shall we name the Bot ?

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Hmm don’t know if it should be
Dirty Harry

You feeling Lucky Punk

Or Ghandi

In a gentle way, you can shake the world.

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Those are good ideas. I was also thinking something having to do with Terminator ( Humans Vs. Bots Theme). Definitely should have some humor too.

Hi @etherpunk you are just the person I have been looking for. I want to downvote this guy called @kevinwong, i just checked your SP though, I'm not sure how much affect it will have on him ...

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haha pay X amount to downvote X amount :P

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this is epic request. 😂😂😂

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Here's the thing... the urge for destruction is a creative passion.

I think it would be an interesting phenomenon but it's hard to see the value proposition for participants unless it were marketed as a voluntary network designed to protect the platform from egregious behavior.

I mean... given the right circumstances, I'd donate monthly in a patreon like program to support keeping the obvious plagiarism off the blockchain.

Edit: by off the blockchain, I mean downvoted appropriately

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I think it's quite unlikely someone will keep on paying to downvote just on a personal agenda, since it costs money.. maybe whales will pay for something like that for the good of the network.. maybe

It might be beneficial, but abuse of such a service might be destructive in the long run. If such a service can handle that aspect then it might be beneficial

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I think it's harder to abuse compared to paying for upvotes..

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I don't know maybe it's because am seeing a kinda randowhale or minnowbooster where anyone is allowed to send cash to downvote anything without review, but coming for you am sure you got a better way to go about it

The upvote bots are rampant. These are mostly copycat projects. I dislike them and don't use them. People should put effort into good content and building an audience rather than trying jump the queue to get ahead.

A down vote bot... hmmm... could end up in a proliferation of these things and end up in an Armageddon.

Down votes hurts my feelings lol

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Massive upvotes sometimes hurt plenty of people's feelings hahah!

Used appropriately, why not?

WTB flags for this post.

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I'm selling 10 SBD per 10% downvote strength.. xD lol

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Deal! Now we just need escort so you won't unflag it til payout!

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Downvote needs Escorts Capture.JPG


Steemit: You Know The High Rollers Are Getting Serious When They Start Sealing Deals With Escorts instead of Escrow

😇!

i guess everything can have a price tag😎

Mmhh... I don't know. The problem I immediately foresee consists of abuses that could yield flag wars.

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I think it's way harder to abuse compared to paying for upvotes, no? If someone pays for downvotes, then it's likely targetted to an already highly-paid account and such that usually receives more scrutiny

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What about systematic downvoting of a medium/smallish account? I have already seen that in the past (and even not later than one month ago).

I've been paid to flag spam before, but a service where you sell downvotes indiscriminately? I don't think that would go down well.

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Hmm i think there's less abusive reasons to pay for downvoting compared to upvoting somehow.. thinking about it

@etherpunk maybe you should build the service lets find out, it can be an experiment/ or an extension of your joke, I'm ready to delagate some Sp. We can all laugh it off a decade later.

We have the freedom to do what we want here. If there's a market for something then someone will cater for it. I just think there are better profits to be made later if we concentrate on growing the platform for a while. I'll flag spammers for nothing if it helps

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It'll most likely be for downvoting already highly paid accounts that are naturally receiving more scrutiny, but difficult to be downvoted publicly.

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Using a bot with delegated SP means you don't have to worry so much about revenge flagging unless they decided to go after delegators. Some of this was mentioned at Steemfest, but I didn't hear much from Ned about real solutions. We just need Steemit to be a place where everyone feels welcome and not just a 'circle jerk' :)

What do you mean by value extractor?

Great info

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I think the mercenaries will show up a bit
I agree with you

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Sounds interesting but I think it should be regulated so it does not get out of hand.

A would-be downvoter must be so powerful ifit go into fruition.