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RE: The Curation and Engagement Leagues 🏆 - STEEM prizes & steem-bounty available! 🎁

in #engagement6 years ago

Well, yeah, Hivemind is a thing. Or at least is was as of 11 days ago. Last post about it is here.

This paragraph talks about how Hivemind 1.0 is already in production.

We are excited to announce that hive 1.0 has been completed and is live in production! Condenser has been updated to start using the hive APIs and is currently undergoing testing against hive’s condenser_api implementation. The current focus is on compatibility and stability.

And this one talks about what's next.

As soon as we confirm everything looks good and address any unexpected issues that come up, it will be time to start the fun part - Hivemind 1.5!

Haven't heard anything else since, but they haven't had an update for almost a week, so maybe we'll see something soon, in addition to why the blockchain froze last night, or better said, why the witnesses didn't have consensus.

And, it sounds like HF 20 could be happening anytime, since they're hoping for early Q3, which I believe we're now in. Unless they do it differently than calendar years.

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Hopefully they take the rewards issue into consideration first. I'd like to see them not just give the early curation rewards to the biggest accounts. That doesn't sound like a good plan to help steem grow.

Anytime? I'll start holding my breath now. ;)

See, that's just it. I haven't read the code, and I haven't seen anyone else read the code and say, yeah, that's what's going to happen. All I've seen is a reaction to a sentence that refers to doing what Steemit was meant to do, getting the rewards to the most valuable content, and that being construed as rewards meant to go to a specific post being redirected to the bigger accounts buying their way to the top of trending.

And then, every time I mention that the 30 minute window is slated to be closed to 15, and who knows how that's going to affect early voting, it gets ignored. No one addresses it. So, anyway, I wouldn't hold your breath.

It's not a good plan for STEEM growth. It's either high incompetence or collusion, take your pick. And lying if the latter, because they're selling it as a great thing. I don't see why the curation rewards from any source ever went to the author in the first place. What was the purpose in that? Especially when you have big SP complaining that 25% curation rewards aren't enough, mainly because actually percentages tend to be closer to a shared 18-20%. It's like every time we turn around, there's something else that just plain makes no sense, unless you're trying to drive people away. Then it makes perfect sense. :)

I don't see why the curation rewards from any source ever went to the author in the first place.

That's a really important question. It seems like if you want to encourage curation and move away from authors self-rewarding that you would increase the curation reward. Then a person would have to use multiple accounts to get the self-reward, and then transfer the rewards from account to account.

As it is, it's very easy to self-reward. Rather than continuing to give away curation rewards, they should move to 30% curation reward and that always stays with the curators. The authors doesn't get any portion of that amount. Then you'll have encouraged curation.

I have been using the current system to vote for favorite authors, like you and a few others at the 0 minute mark so you get more rewards for your posts, but I'm going to change that with the new system. I don't want to take rewards from the curators and give it to the vote buyers.

It just seems like the elite at steemit are very out of touch with the regular struggles of the average steemit user. It seems they just don't care. Again, use some of that stake to raise some capital and hire someone to help with that. Seriously, for $60,000/yr you could have a customer service person and a customer engagement representative.

As soon as I think somethings is starting to go better, Steemit finds a new way to muck it up.

Or old ways to muck it up that we're just barely finding out about before they change it to something new to muck it up with.

I don't know. It's getting hard to find new ways to say it, but for as much potential STEEM has, and for all that is actually going right with it, there's all of these other "What The What?!" things going on that you'd scratch your head raw on.

I think we found that out with the freezing of the blockchain last night.

Who knew that you could actually try to give yourself $38 million SP? Who knew that could make it through whatever safety protocols there might be for such things? I guess the only thing that was known is the blockchain would freeze up before it would allow the transaction to take place. Otherwise, no one knew it was going to happen until it did, because the blockchain is too complex to know all of what might go wrong with it until it does.

I'm not a dev. I don't think I'd ever want to be one. I would think, though, that seizing up the blockchain every time someone manages to perform a transaction that gets by the built in filter preventing such transactions wouldn't be great for business, just as all of us magically giving ourselves 38 million SP isn't good for business.

But, apparently, I can't have my filter work and the blockchain not seize up. It's one or the other, and I should be happy it's the latter.

I don't know, man. I think there are a lot of people who lost a fair amount of confidence in the Steem blockchain after yesterday's debacle. "There was a box that wasn't checked"? That's bullcrap. And even if it were true, that's not good news that you guys can't pay close enough attention to the check boxes that you forget to check the one that says "block fraudulent transaction instead of shutting down blockchain."

I'm not bullish on Steem right now. I know the price just jumped, but I think it's going to drop right back down again.

Then again, I think there's a price pump going on right now.
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Being that the price is so much higher than the other exchanges, I would imagine that it's a group of people who are selling Steem back and forth at higher price levels to try to inflate the price and get the other exchanges to follow. That's just a guess though. I really have no clue.

I would say it's as good a guess as any, and pretty much what's been happening to date, and most recently with SBDs. Things seem to happen over the weekend for some reason.

You're the second person that seems suspicious about what really happened. I got in a conversation with pfunk after he asked me if I would rather the nijeah account get the 38 million SP or the blockchain shutdown, and that's when I said, I'd rather neither. He then let me know it was impossible for any software as complex as the blockchain to be totally bug free.

I get it. I really do. I think there's so much code, and there's more than a couple of people working on it and so there's moving parts, blah, blah, blah. But don't you think, once it happens, once someone does a transaction to vest themselves with SP, that it kind of opens the doors for others to try to come up with creative ways to get the blockchain to do something, or crash?

It just seems to me that you go looking at the payout operations and how many ways you could possibly mess that up, and then you go check the filter for those specific transactions and you makes sure they're airtight. I guess that's not how development works. You wait until it's broken and then you fix it. With a patch, in some cases, that makes things that were working just fine break. Okay, that's not what happened here (I'm just generalizing with every Windows update I ever did before switching to OSX. :)

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