The Education System Works!

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Fact #1: American "schooling" (and a lot of other "Western" schooling) is heavily modeled after the Prussian "education" (indoctrination) system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system

Fact #2: One of the main proponents of that system (Johann Gottlieb Fichte) openly described the purpose of the system as follows: "Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished."

Fact #3: The book "Obedience to Authority" documents the findings of Dr. Stanley Milgram, and shows that a majority of Americans will inflict severe pain or death on an innocent stranger, simply because a perceived "authority" figure told them to.

https://www.amazon.com/Obedience-Authority-Experimental-Perennial-Classics/dp/006176521X

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That is what American "education" accomplishes. And it does it very well.

(P.S. I could have done my usual routine, and babbled on and on about this subject for many paragraphs, but I think for now, that's about all that needs to be said.)

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its good how educational system is improving day by day.. improvement can result in a better youth and a better future

Did you read the article?

She has certainly had her Education and read stuff written by other (supposed) thinkers. Ayn Rand /Howard Roark would be proud.

ofcourse! not ur wiki link... bt the above article :)

i am a political science graduate.. and doing masters in that ... have read many articles by many political thinkers on education :)

no....you didn't !!! LOL....or you did and your undergrad/masters "education" is glowing/showing results !!! LMAO !!

no....she didn't !!! LOL....or she did and her "education" is glowing/showing results !!!

wonderful post..@larkenrose education is developing our physical and mental growth. so how it is destroying our free will power?

An excerpt from my book, "The Most Dangerous Superstition":

Year after year, students live in a world in which:
• They receive approval, praise and reward for being where "authority" tells them to be, when "authority" tells them to be there. They receive disapproval, reproach and punishment for being anywhere else. (This includes the fact that they are coerced into being in school to begin with.)
• They receive approval, praise and reward for doing what "authority" tells them to do. They receive disapproval, reproach and punishment for doing anything else, or for failing to do what "authority" tells them to do.
• They receive approval, praise and reward for speaking when and how "authority" tells them to speak, and receive disapproval, reproach and punishment for speaking
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at any other time, in any other way, or about any subject other than what "authority" tells them to speak about, or for failing to speak when "authority" tells them to speak.
• They receive approval, praise and reward for repeating back whatever ideas the "authority" declares to be true and important, and receive disapproval, reproach and punishment for disagreeing, verbally or on a written test, with the opinions of those claiming to be "authority," or for thinking or writing about subjects other than what "authority" tells them to think or write about.
• They receive approval, praise and reward for immediately telling "authority" about any problems or personal conflicts they encounter, and receive disapproval, reproach and punishment for trying to solve any problems or settle any disagreements on their own.
• They receive approval, praise and reward for complying with whatever rules, however arbitrary, "authority" decides to impose upon them. They receive disappro- val, reproach and punishment for disobeying any such rules. These rules can be about almost anything, including what clothes to wear, what hairstyles to have, what facial expression to have, how to sit in a chair, what to have on a desk, what direction to face, and what words to use.
• They receive approval, praise and reward for telling the "authority" when another student has disobeyed "the rules," and receive disapproval, reproach and punish- ment for failing to do so.
The students clearly and immediately see that, in their world, there are two distinct classes of people, masters ("teachers") and subjects ("students"), and that the rules of proper behavior are drastically different for the two groups. The masters constantly do things that they tell the subjects not to do: boss people around, control others via threats, take property from others, etc. This constant and obvious double standard teaches the subjects that there is a very different standard of morality for the masters than there is for the subjects. The subjects must do whatever the masters tell them to, and only what the masters tell them to, while the masters can do pretty much anything they want.

Above all else, American "schooling" teaches OBEDIENCE to "authority." It is indoctrination far more than it is actual education. It trains people to do and think whatever an authority figure tells them to do and think. For the in-depth explanation, read some John Taylor Gatto.

yes you are right i got it .. thanks for reply

and this is all done in plain sight and still so many do not see what is happening

This is why I homeschooled.

We do the same. For this and that this style also disconnects people from their creative genius.

I used to think govern-cement schools were sort of ok, because at least they taught some important things.

Later I learned that EVERYTHING I was taught in school is wrong, and have struggled endlessly to unlearn it.

And I mean EVERYTHING. And I have more college credits then 99% of the population.

I was "educated" in a government education camp. It has taken me years to shed the brainwashing and get a real education. Now we homeschool our child and thank goodness we do! I'm learning stuff I didn't know existed.

I use to think that education system is fucked up only in India.

At least be glad that people in India (and neighboring countries) actually realize how terrible it is. They don't have delusions like the developed world. Knowing something is bad itself is a good start. I'm also sure Indians don't revere the government. In fact lots of Asian countries have terrible opinions of politicians and they always know that the government isn't their friend. That would certainly help Asia take over the West in the coming years. In places like Sewden gang rape is put under the rug by authorities.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=what+is+really+happening+in+sweden

Glad I had an independent and "varied" education-- a mix of home schooling and public schooling in five different countries.

More than anything, my dad spent a lot of time dismantling "great minds think alike" and instead taught "great minds think for themselves."

Today's school systems-- especially in the US-- is a scary factory system of creating thoughtless meat puppets.

So much reason. Conventional education only functions as a mechanism to protect the establishment, precisely because of this interest that there is public education and compulsory by the government, to prevent anyone from being outside the influence and social indoctrination in favor of established authority.

what movie is that?

It shows 2m30s of the "Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall" music video. Check it out, it's a classic:

Ah I remember. I watched it in school. The irony xD.

This is exactly why we do not participate in our public school system (except for the damn taxes stolen from us).
Homeschooling was the norm until the late 1800's. The key is to make sure actual school takes place...

The Education system in America has done usual routine.

wonderful post..@larkenrose education is developing our physical and mental growth. so how it is destroying our free will power?

You reference a legendary study, usually covered in every Psych 101 class. One of my personal favorites. Results are sad, but true.

The film was pretty good too. It was no Imitation Game. But it's a good film that covers the experiments and the reactions well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimenter_(film)

Interesting history. This post touches on why the world seems a bit messed up, I think i know many people who came through education systems like this

The justification for the Prussian system is the same as for democracy. It is a bad system but we dont know a better one.

I reject that argument, but their have been studies that copying and imitation is one of the key factors how children learn.

Another quality piece of work.

Thank you

Here are quotes from two of man-kinds worst enemies John D. Rockefeller and his hinchman Frederick T. Gate. These are the "men" who help fund the decline of the education system in America.

"I don’t want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers.” – John D Rockefeller

“In our dream we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or of science. We are not to raise up among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply.” – Frederick T Gates

It seems as if the educational system is doing more harm than good

Nice Work

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I don't know who Ivan is but here is a quote I got from somewhere:
"School is the advertising agency that makes you think you need the society as it is." -- Ivan Illich

The short post are good as well. And cost less time. A suggestion; maybe the short posts you do on your facebook page you could post here as well.

peace.

The short post are good as well. And cost less time. A suggestion; maybe the short posts you do on your facebook page you could post here as well.

peace.

Creepy. Real world twilight zone.
Simple and powerful post.
One of the reasons I heard recently from a parent who decided to shell the money to put her kid in private school was, during a public school tour, she asked a teacher what the kids learn in kindergarten and the response was 'to learn how to start following the rules. '
while this is not a typical response, I wonder now if it is in the handbook
I am very much against "government funding" into "private" schools
It sounds like a trick