Did the Simpsons warn us of a U.S. Economy crash?

in #economy7 years ago

Hello all!

I would like to make a slightly different post today. This afternoon I was talking with my father, grandfather and a friend of ours about the Twin Towers tragedy. It reminded me of how many things were shown in the famous The Simpsons show that came to pass in the following years. 9/11 was only one example, however I began to think about the Trump election.


Putting my thoughtful face on.

Those of us who are more conspiratorially minded will be familiar with the similarities between the Trump/Hilary election and an episode in The Simpsons called Bart in the Future, which aired a staggering 16 years earlier, in 2000. The episode showed a future version of America where an adult Lisa (who looks strangely like Hilary, accurate to her very jewellery) sits in the Oval Office, lamenting the previous Trump presidency.


They look eerily similar, don't they?

The episode also showed President Trump's ride down the escalator, as well as his press conference.


Both complete with a blue suit and a red tie.

The fact that this was shown 16 years ago is staggering by itself, however, many miss out the part where Lisa comments on the economy which she has inherited from President Trump (It is interesting that the President after Trump is female; could Hillary go for a third round at the elections?).

Could this be only the beginning of a long hard road for America and the world as a whole? According to The Simpsons - the answer is yes. The Mirror quoted Dan Greaney, writer for The Simpsons, when he explained the reason for the prophetic episode:

Whether you believe this, or not, I will leave for you to decide. For me, one coincidence is possible. But showing both candidates in one episode, with their exact suits and accessory choices seems a bit too much. Either way, the episode does predict that America is heading into rough times, and it is not hard to see why, with the insane amount of debt and all sorts of political troubles. 


Oh, and did I mention that The Simpsons also predicted the voting results map? 


1 or 2 states difference. Pretty good for a guess, eh?

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I believe you might be right. I love your digging to write this article. Good job! The only thing is that the budget crunch and economic downturn might not happen for another three years, so I believe that the recovery is still moving upward rapidly. Now is definitely not the right time to short the market. The market could continue to inflate massively at the same rate as it is now for a longer time. In order to create a budget crisis our market could inflate similar to Venezuela before the next crisis. That means that the market could go up ~2,000% more before the crisis hits in three to seven years. The crisis might even hit in twelve years from now and could still be blamed on Trump's policies. I do agree that we will have a crisis within the next twelve years.

I agree. Technically, the episode showed President Lisa beginning her term, so that would be roughly 8 years from now, which is plenty of time for the market to crash. But who knows. Either way, economies around the world are in a crisis.

Beltaharzzar, I love that you agreed with me, but don't be fooled. You stated that economies around the world are in a crisis and this is a humongous misconception! The global economy is in the best shape in history. Many fake blogs would lead you to think the opposite, but the data proves the positive growth. EEM, the ETF that tracks a large basket of global economies is up close to +30% since November of 2016! This is the best growth the earth has ever seen! I say earth to put the emphasis of all economies. This information is actually suppressed by the media. Not necessarily because they don't want you to know. The news media only looks for stories that are negative and promote fear. This fear promotion is their fuel. Unfortunately, the news media has been like this for decades.

Actually, in my experience, most media these days looks quite positively at the world economy as a whole, when ignoring the minor booms and busts.

Also, the crisis we're referring to is not linked to the growth of production and GDP at all, but is concerned with the faulty economic and financial system which we are subjects to.

Hence, why most of us are increasingly interested in crypto-currencies, which are a strong potential long-term solution to the fiat currency system, which puts entire economies in debt to Central Banks, and which lead to economic slavery through bailouts.

The issues go much deeper than simply GDP and production, I think. :P

Where are you getting your positive news of the world economy? Please share a positive economic world news story. Also, everybody knows we are subject to a faulty financial system, but what can we do about it? Don't you think the currency devaluation (which happens when stocks rise and not crash) is a much bigger problem? If you are promoting Bitcoin so heavily, you should be focusing on the market rising to unforeseen levels that would devalue the dollar. That is the selling point that Bitcoin relies upon. When the DOW hits 50,000, every dollar will be worth .39 cents. If Lisa's crash prophecy comes true, the stock market will crash and every dollar will be worth more than it is now. The problem is, the market very rarely crashes, and when it finally does it doesn't go down a large enough percentage to inflate the value of your dollar. I think you understand because you stated that bailouts lead to economic slavery, but bailouts equal very large bullish stock prices. Plus, in your first comment you stated that economies around the world are in a crisis. But, then in your second comment you wrote that media looks positively at the world economy. So you think the media is lying by saying the world economy is doing well, when it really isn't? The thing about that is if you look at world economy ETF's or track the markets of the world, they are doing very well right now. Also, I could share a million stories of negatively biased world economy news stories. I just googled World economy and this is the first story that came up:

https://plus.google.com/+TheEconomist/posts/gfJkN1CB4ib

This is the next story:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/a-return-to-world-trades-glory-days-appears-unlikely-20170714-gxb7ik.html

This is the 3rd:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/18/australias-central-bank-sees-more-positives-in-domestic-world-economy.html

Please find me a positive story! This is the EEM stock chart:

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/EEM/

So basically, the news is lying by saying that world growth is negative when the charts prove that world growth is positive! Did you learn? I love your Simpson's correlation, please agree

Well, if I'm entirely honest, I don't think media is a reliable indicator for economic trends. For every negative article you pull out, you could find another positive one. Here are a few examples:

"OECD says global economic outlook has improved"
https://www.ft.com/content/00b8fc52-4ad8-11e7-a3f4-c742b9791d43?mhq5j=e1

"Global economy growing: IMF"
http://www.skynews.com.au/business/business/market/2017/04/19/global-economy-growing--imf.html

"The global economy enjoys a synchronised upswing"
https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21718868-past-decade-has-been-marked-series-false-economic-dawns-time-really-does-feel

"The global economic recovery is for real"
https://www.ft.com/content/27bd72c8-2121-11e7-b7d3-163f5a7f229c?mhq5j=e1

So I'm not personally accusing all media of lying, but I do not believe they are reliable in any sense.

Next, it seems you are heavily focused on the stock market, however stocks are not the only driving force in any market. Currencies appreciate and depreciate for a number of reasons - stock market (yes, it's a factor), fiscal policy (where the Central Bank pours more currency into the economy, bringing down its value), demand for the currency etc.

The value of Bitcoin does not currently come from the stock market, per se, but its limited supply. The dollar, or any other fiat currency, is essentially unlimited in supply since more can be created out of nothing at any time the bank chooses. Bitcoin, however, is like gold and has a limited supply (21mil. bitcoin to be specific). This gives it inherent value, unlike the dollar, pound, euro etc. which have no inherent value on their own.

Also, by economic slavery I meant something different. What I meant was that bailouts are essentially huge loans which need to be paid back somehow and put a country's economy into the hands of the country which loaned it the money. So the provider begins to run the economy which is indebted to them.

These are issues which are inherent to fiat currency which is controlled by banks and not by the countries and governments which so recklessly use it.

I'm sorry if I've missed out on something XD I'm getting slightly lost.

Very STRONG reply! You are impressing me with your knowledge. I like your fight back and show proof mentality. You pulled out some nice article examples. The one thing that I noticed is that your articles are from March and April 2017, which is semi close range, but when day trading on the media, you must look at articles every minute, every day and track what happens during a short and long window. But in your case, you are a winner and prove your point. Your articles actually prove me wrong because they are correctly written. I don't read ft.com because it is subscription based, but they are 2-0 in my book after reading your examples. I also agree with all your other data points about the dollar and bitcoin. I have always believed the dollar is manipulated by the fed and it is unfair to the American people. I am not sure why we were even debating after reading your comeback. I think my system is more reliant on BusinessInsider and ZeroHedge being wrong consistently. Try reading them and get back with me and see if you agree they are terrible forecasters. Thanks for your genius reply. I gave you a follow and hopefully we can be friends. Read some of my articles and see what you think. Thanks

https://steemit.com/@unscammable

Oh boy!!! XD I feel like I've passed a test!!!

Thank you! Really! ^^ I will definitely have a look at your blog ^^

Its very interesting how do Simpsons getting it right, do the creators know something what we dont? Maybe they can foresee the future? Maybe in 20+ years they have just got those things right just by the freak accident..
Any ways brilliant post, keep up good work.

Thank you @highme! I'm glad you enjoyed the post!
I personally believe they have inside knowledge of how things are planned, which should worry many people. If these events are planned to this level of precision, then we should think twice before going insane about who should win - Hillary or Trump - and hold back from trampling opposing supporters.

It's just makes wow

I know right...

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