RE: Addressing The Owned Machinery Argument Against Free Labor
So if I understand it correctly you can not have a lawn mower as private property BUT you can not have it as personal property either. Unless your a full time 24/7/365 lawnmowerperson then and only then it's personal property.
Because when you have a lawnmower and you don't use it 24/7, someone else makes it their personal "property" for say 1 hour, and then it's someone else's personal property again, meaning you can call it personal property till someone else come's and gets it and the is theirs for hour etc. rinse repeat.
So the mower is in end effect from nobody, who do you think will do the maintenance. Oh and who's gonna provide the fuel. And who's gonna provide a new one when the old one is dead? The person who had the mower in the first place? I don't think he or she is gonna take the responsibility for a new one, what do you think?
If you start a voluntarily in a commune and everyone is there voluntarily too it could work you could buy and maintain the thing together.
But you can not force the whole world to live your way. Well of course you can do that you can force anybody to live the way you want them to live but then you and your mob, are then the new ruler(s). You become then the rulers, you say you want to get rid off.
Edit;Can you link me the post in or under which you had that conversation? Or is that complicated?
it would just stay common property
how each separate society works is up to them m8 this is just theoretical
who provides the fuel? Society would do so as it is required for labor
Society would. Who is society? What is society? When is society? Whatever you want to define it by, Great points wordsword:
The lawnmower has no incentive of being built and being bought to begin with.
The society would just have the incentive to built it, to run it and to maintain it, just like they would have the incentive to make a whole new one or 10 or 100, because society demands them. And where are the individuals? Nowhere.