Thanks @grumpycat for Fighting Against Bots on Steemit!

in #dtube7 years ago (edited)


Today I want to say thank you to @grumpycat for providing great value to the community by calling out bots and people using them that hurts the Steemit platform!


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Awesome video I really love these types of videos where you talk about steam it. It’s sad to see how desperate people are for money and how people are willing to use bots just to make just a couple pennies

You should really read @maneki-neko's vlog. He was against voting bots for awhile to. While he's still against reward pool abuse, he learned that voting bots are a necessity in the economy of Steemit. Here's the short version:

There are those of us that are minnows and have only been around Steemit for a few months at best. Then there are those that have been around since the beginning. All users that started in September 2016 or sooner are whales now.

Here is what us noobs don't understand. They are not whales because they have been around for almost 2 years. No. It doesn't take 2 years to get 7mil SP. It actually takes much longer. There are several reason why they have so much SP, but IMHO the biggest one is not how long they've been using Steemit as much as when they started. You may be saying, "Isn't that the same thing?". No. The truth is that if we use steemit the way they did for the next 2 years, we're lucky to get 500k SP let alone 7 million.

A couple years ago the reward pool was much more open to users and anyone could really get at it because there were no whales. Now, the whales are dominating the reward pool. There's no way for plankton or minnows to get at rewards except from other whales (bots). I commend you all for your principles, but it is folly. The economy is not what it was in 2016 when you could create a post and get rewards easily for posts. Now your rewards are much harder to get. It's not because of bots, but rather whales.

You want to talk about a begging mentality, that doesn't disappear with bots. Bots exist to answer the begging which occurred before them. People were begging (sending random memos and spam) to whales to get them to upvote their posts. Finally, someone realized they could get rid of the spam by creating a separate account and everyone sends their memos to that.

Now the whale can steem in peace without the minnows hollering at him/her begging for votes.

My point is that this problem with the Steemit economy does not go away with bots. Bots are actually an answer to a problem that's been around for awhile.

Grumpycat is just part of it. Grumpycat goes around self-voting its useless comments. It downvotes users putting money back in the pool that it then gets paid with by self-voting comments. Grumpycat isn't helping, it's making it worse.

  1. Grumpy cat is hurting bots which are the only legitimate way for minnows to get rewards the way the whales did in 2016
  2. Grumpycat is self-voting exacerbating the problem that would exist without voting bots (whales in a self-voting circlejerk).
  3. Grumpycat has convinced minnows that it's helping them when it's actually hurting them and getting paid for it.

One interesting problem that has arisen from bots is a curation problem which is being solved through the community (not Grumpycat). That is when people create posts on Busy, zappl, dlive, dtube, or dmania and get bots to vote skyrocketing rewards for really nothing. This is basically the same as when whales would self-vote, but at least this problem is easier solved through the community. Bots are using blacklists for users that want to abuse them. These blacklists are maintained by curators. In this case, it actually turns out to be a better deal.

Yes it's very sad! Especially when we consider how much abundance we already live in. And that many still feel they need to use a beggar mentality! We need to show them that there is already so much abundance available. We do that by being a great example and role model. Couple of pennies won't change your life! You should be focus on creating real value and get bigger rewards! And real value these days mostly will come from comment sections!

Isn't that what this is though? Isn't this just another post that edifies Tarder Sauce in hopes to get a @grumpycat upvote and comment?

@phoneinf This time I do not agree, this cat is one of the biggest abusers of steemit blockchain, look back at his profile where he voted the trivial comments of another his profile at $200 each.

Thanks for telling me your opinion. Yes the whole point of this video is to see what others think! Yes upvoting your other accounts is definitely bad for the community same as self upvoting I would say.

I can see if you perhaps put in lots of work that self upvoting for a blog post is fine. Curious what @grumpycat's view is on this. Perhaps he feels that the comment he makes are worth the money.

Clearly there is lots of money floating around for the people that invested early. But I'm really curious if it damages the whole reward pool since it's a couple million dollars per week. Does a few accounts really have a major damaging effect.

It's all a bit of a zoo now when people can use bots it's a bit hard to stop. Interesting times we are moving into!

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