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RE: Hey Steemit Libertarians, I debated the death penalty with a conservative...

in #dtube7 years ago

We let people have guns so they can execute people with no judge, no jury, no witnesses, and no questions asked so long as they can convince someone they felt threatened or thought they saw a gun.

Society will spend decades and millions of dollars to go through the process of trying to protect someone from incorrect execution (and still fail to protect the innocent in many cases) yet almost no effort at all is made to do the same to prevent private executions. Makes no sense.

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I have no idea what you mean by "private executions"
I have a right to self defense whether it is with a gun, a stick, a 2x4, a rock, a metal pipe, my fist or anything else I can get my hands on. If you attack me and I strike you in the head with my fist and you have a brain injury and die. Did I execute you? or was I defending myself. The use or non use of a firearm has nothing to do with if it was self defense or not.

We let women go into abortion clinics and have the brains sucked out of their unborn babies and they don't even have to convince anyone they felt threatened.

If men had babies the right to abortion would be in the constitution. When there is an amendment that gives everyone a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness lets talk.

Oh and by the way, you don't let me have guns. I have guns because of my god given right to self defense which is reaffirmed by the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

God did not give you the second amendment, men (and I mean men, not women) did and anyone who has read the DC v Heller decision knows that it was never intended for what people say it is now. It was quite literally for the security of the state. But Americans aren't so good with history and a 5-4 decision will one day be overturned and some states will decide they do not need unregulated militia for their security an more. I know that is scary for you, but many civilised non-"shit hole" countries (thank Don) manage very nicely without them.

We let people have guns so they can execute people with no judge, no jury, no witnesses, and no questions asked so long as they can convince someone they felt threatened or thought they saw a gun.

No, we let people have arms (which includes guns, knives etc) so they can defend themselves. If we have an inalienable right to life then we also have a right to defend our lives. If we don't have the right to defend our lives then we have no right to life.

yet almost no effort at all is made to do the same to prevent private executions.

You are incorrect. If a person meets the criteria for self-defense then it is not a private execution but self defense. If a person does not meet the criteria for self-defense then they are charged with a crime.

http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1909
https://www.lectlaw.com/def/d030.htm
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/self-defense-overview.html

But there is no witness in these situations. I was he said, she said and one of the parties is dead.

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