RE: Comparing Steem To Facebook’s Blockchain Libra With Andrarchy
free speech, transparency.
See, this sounds to me very much like something similar to what someone like a neo feminist in the western world would argue.
We need free speech! We need transparency!
We need equal pay. We need equal rights...
But you got that. Lady.
Crypto is the capital of the world in non transparency and deception.
When has your right to free speech been trampeled on as a european or an american?! You have laws in place to counter it. You have rights groups fight for it.
This is one of the reasons i hate people spreading this bulshit that have never experienced it. I was born in a country where you would go die on a rock in the middle of the adriatic sea (Naked Island) if you spoke up against Tito or communist regime.
And here im seeing snowflakes complain about censorship. Its insane.
Facebook is a private company and most they banned are fringe characters with fringe ideas, with toxic followers, with dangerous ideologies.
We will praise and encourage "communities" like Palnet that will decide what is ok and what is not to write about but we will dismiss the same right when it comes to a private company like Facebook... Why? Because its popular to do so?
Because "fuck Zuck"?
Hypocrisy thy name is Crypto!
Look.... Most people here mean well and ill ping @andrarchy one more time... but most people here abide by the rules of Steem.
You might have your opinion on marginal things but not a single person will say what they really think.
Let alone anything close to what i said here.
If it needs be.... Pretend to follow the tenants of crypto bs but work behind the curtain Andy... If you get a partnership of any kind with facebook people will aplaud you and investors will salivate over it.
No one cares about the libertarian ideology. Its nonsense.
They just pretend to.
Be smarter then that
I think you are barking up the wrong tree, Zuckerburg isn't going to be interested in any partnership with Steemit, why you would think such is beyond me, the Winklevoss twins should be a fine example of how far Zuckerburg would view any partnership. I agree with most of what you are saying, Libra will dust Steemit in performance, that's because, as you stated above, that most people really don't concern themselves about current issues like the censorship debate on social media platforms as it doesn't effect them nor do they care about privacy when they view being on the internet in any fashionable form they feel tracked. Just about any site you go to you have to agree to let them drop cookies on you before you can participate on their sites, people have become immune to it. Now you offer up a cypto that people can use to buy product, like diapers and you have a winner, maybe even someday you will be able to even buy car insurance with it from a site on FB, who knows, but it will still be a totally different platform then Steemit, it will enhance the viability of crypto's to an audience of people who are just happy to post mom and pop pic's along with sharing meme's but it won't come close to offering the high quality blockchain ability of Steemit, there will always be a well educated public that will prefer that over posting random dumb stuff on FB.
Doesnt need to be a partnership.
Getting on the radar is what im talking about.
Justin wont change Warren Buffets mind but he won simply by association. Steem marketing can do that i think with Libra.
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If I recall right there's been a couple comments over the months on here of people complaining that promoting Steemit on FB got deleted, I just don't see anyway that Zuckerburg is going to let anyone cut into his new found glory to be. I think a some of the people on here got it right that he has enough connections and resources available to him that others haven't thus far to pull this stunt off to become a crypto king.
You have a really conflicting view. Social media platforms have been laying rules and policy that go way further than free speech so yes people are being censored or at least their speech is being restricted. You say feminists are for free speech and transparency and yet you believe that the people being banned are all deserving of that? With them implementing a global currency, you don't see the problem with them being able to ban people from its use? That's about as centralized as you can possibly be. A normal person can at least acquire cash, but if you're off Facebook, good luck. The leftist argument that they are a private company and can do what they want is also bogus unless Facebook decides it's a publisher, not a platform otherwise they cannot continue to enjoy the privileges of being both a publisher and a platform. If they continue to arbitrarily apply rules to certain groups and not others they will be forced to admit they are just a publisher and be regulated as such.
Now that I've made it past the first few remarks I see Iflagtrash is censoring lordbutterfly, he's even threatened to flag anyone who engaged with him, so you want to repeat that to us again about banning people from a crypto or how that's not centralized, I've yet to see anything Lordbutterfly has said in this discussion that warrants being flagged for. A little like the pot calling the kettle black.
Also, they are a publically traded company not private, so why people try to argue they are private doesn't make sense.
That's just in the sense that they are not a public utility not to imply that they are not publicly traded. I assume anyway, I don't make that argument.
On private servers by private companies.
You have no free speech in my house. If i do not like what you say i will kick you out. It doesnt matter if that is a party where everyones invited.
My comment on neo femminists wasnt in term of free speech but rather in terms of overexaggerating reppression in western countries.
I think crypto ideology greatly exaggerates both repression that is happening in western countries and importance of other libertarian ideas. What ever they might be.
Publisher vs platform.. Its really not a leftist argument.
Facebook does not ban based on ideological differences. If they do they can easily argue differently and arguments will prove in opposition or in favor. I have almost never seen a ban that could be seen as completely unjustified by their terms of service.
It is no accident that radicals are the ones being banned the most.
Take for example a super popular facebook page called "Di Su Pare" with almost a million followers.
Their facebook ban was raised in the croatian parliament by the leftist opposition leader as a violation of free speech because they were supposed to be a satirical page.
Do you know what those guys did?
They took a cardboard cutout of Luka Modric (The current top player on the world by Fifa) and cut his head of and posted the video because there is rivalry between north and south of croatia in football.
See thats not "really bad"... But the underlying fact is that only fringe stupidity like this gets banned.
Regular folks dont worry about things like this.
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I dont think stuff like this is a free speech issue.
You are 100% right @lordbutterfly... The delusion of Steemit knows no bounds. "We will take on Facebook and win!"
Big LOLZ
Cg
No one needs to take it on, that's what we said, that it would naturally fail and either way it benefits Steem
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Yes I'm sure with their billions of dollars of marketing spend it will fail, and Steemit who have a history of ahem excellent marketing will take advantage of that failure.
In the meantime I will be crowned new king of Mars and it will rain marshmallows for a week.
Cg
Facebook has many failed projects and people are leaving facebook in droves. Their coin offers no incentive to hold it and it's not competing with steem as it has no social aspect. I think it will fail and if it doesn't we still ultimately benefit off the hype with no drawbacks :)