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RE: Hey Steemit Economists: Trump Tax Plan is More Failed Trickle Down Economics

in #dtube7 years ago

Do you run up your credit cards, then claim financial success? The only reason debt would drive growth is if our entire monetary system were based on debt... Oh wait...

There is a reason the framers called for a sound money system, backed by gold and silver.

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So you just restated what I said? lol

Yes we are in a debt based system so debt does drive growth...

The founders established a gold backed system because they were in the 18th century...

Being in the 18th century had nothing to do with the system they set up. It was set up that way so that wealth would not be under the central control of the State, and so the currency of the nation would actually have intrinsic value. That same system is just as relevant and possible today, as then. If sound money were an 18th century ideal, why would the Chinese be busy buying gold, and not releasing figures as to how much they actually own?

And, I wasn't restating what you said, I was mocking it. We do have a debt based economy, and you could call its expansion "growth", but in reality, the expansion of debt is not growth.

Russia is buying gold too, it's just to stabilize their currency to make sure it doesn't collapse up against US sanctions. China is doing the same but less because of sanctions, and more because the value of gold is constantly going up which allows them easy profits, but also because if they control a larger share of the gold in the world, they are less susceptible to currency spikes or changes which spurs domestic investment. Gold is a product to buy and sell and profit from. The purchase of it isn't indicative of any major shift in the perception of the economy. Btw the US still holds the largest amount of gold and we have 4 times the amount China does... yet we have a speculative system...

Public debt is an imagined problem. We are VERY far away from not being able to deal with that problem. The major issue is private debt. People's wages have been stagnating while costs have gone up everywhere. If people's basic necessities like rent have all shot up and they don't make more money then it goes on credit card debt. Then a larger and larger share of people's disposable income is going towards credit card payments. Then they cant spend money on stuff which stalls the economy. Like it or not that's the situation. The government has two choices, either force debt forgiveness, or subsidize the hell out of healthcare, education, and social services to eliminate those strains on people's disposable income so they can pay their debts and buy things. This means public debt drives growth because it offsets private debt.

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