Trees. Snowflakes. Starfish. Lungs. DNA. You can look around in nature and find so many patterns it just blows your mind. There's also symmetry in nature too. When you look at the fractal patterns in nature it will really make you think and be amazed. In this video I bring up some common questions many people have regarding the subject. Of course this topic has been highly debated all across the world but I was led to think about these things after being outside enjoying the beauty of nature. I anticipate this may ruffle some feathers but the wonders of the world makes one very curious. So let's talk and hopefully we can all be mature here and be respectful if we happen to disagree. Much love and peace to everybody.
Also here are some here are some very dope links regarding some of the things I mentioned.
Is Our Universe Fractal?
The Magic Of Fibonacci Numbers | Arthur Benjamin
Is there evidence to support an intelligent designer or is there evidence to support the universe coming into existence by chance?
The "why why" analysis gives rise to the evaluation of scientific aspect and this is a never ending phenomena as well, because whatever we look around us is not that simple to conclude even in some years...
The mother has given this body as a loan to us and when we die this body will go back to mother earth and will disperse within the constituents of earth.
So the point is that we must make our life purposely, we are here for a specific purpose.
We were created from the dust and to the dust we will return. I do think too that we are more than just our physical body. We have spirit. As our bodies go back to the dirt our spirits go back to the creator. We all have a purpose in this world. And who would know what our purpose is better than the one who created all life.
It is a deep thing to discuss. I say look at the evidence for both cases. Which one has more evidence and it much more logical. That's how we should look at it.
If it deals with fractal geometry, fibonacci numbers, and the golden ratio then yes I am familiar with it. The way we create things usually don't have a fractal design to them but everywhere in nature there's this more complex geometric design know as fractals. Fractions of whole numbers basically and the structure has infinity built into it somehow. YOu can keep zooming in on fractals and it seems to go on forever and ever. Really freakish stuff.
What if what we think of as "God" is merely one of an infinitely ancient race of infinitely advanced beings who traveled the multiverses and laid the seeds for life to bloom in promising placed. What if the building blocks for us to EVOLVE were seeded here hundreds of millions of years ago, like a gardener might toss a bunch of seeds to create a random meadow?
What if what we think of as "THE Universe" is merely one of infinite iterations across infinite timelines, all of then with varying numbers of "God" traveling around, tending the garden... and each Universe rises and falls much the same way each season rises and falls, with germination, growth, bloom, harvest and decay?
Does that mean that Jesus/Yeshua/Mohammed cannot each be the "Son of God?" Absolutely not! Does it mean we cannot both have been created and evolved? Absolutely not.
One of the frailties of being human is that we limit our thoughts to what we can reasonably wrap our heads around. What if the famous quote "You can not see My face, for no man shall see Me and live" is not some warning, but merely an allusion to the fact your brain will explode if you try to grasp something SO COMPLEX it is beyond your capacity?
These are thoughts I often have... life is usually more complex than we think...
Ok you have made some very interesting points. Ok so we have complexity. True that. I really like your "what if" scenarios. Would these intelligent beings be able to make themselves known to us. Yes of course. But would they have any desire to make themselves known? Now that is one we wrestle with.
Also I think what you are describing there is infinite causes. Look I have done my best to study from both angles of first cause or infinite cause. I don't know enough to make a claim here. So your scenarios in that regard may have merit.
Is there evidence to support those complex ideas? Idk. In my opinion there's evidence to support the worldview of there being an intelligent designer that created with intention rather than chance. Randomness and chance don't beget order and structure to things. At least I'm not aware. There's order, patterns, symmetry, signatures, laws of nature, coded DNA. Hints of there being a wizard or wizards behind the curtain so to speak.
The other things you bought up are crazy to think about in a mind blowing way. We all want to know truth. Well at least I would hope so. Can every idea of where we come from and creation be true at the same exact time. Ummm. I think there would be some blatant contradictions to deal with. Otherwise that means there is no absolute truth and we can go around in this life in a free for all if everyone is right in their views. The impacts of a free for all would be catastrophic on earth. I mean just imagine if trump and kim jong un had no advisors , laws, or checks and balances in place. I would not bet my life that we would still be alive due to the evidence that even with those things in place human life is at stake.. I go with absolute truth because it is the standard we measure everything else against.
We are very limited in our knowledge regarding creation. That's why on many things I choose to simply say I don't know. I instead look for as much evidence as I can and see where that evidence leads.
Now you got my mind working. Good talking to you man.
SO many theories yes. As you said there are many facts and assumptions. For me I choose to go with an intelligent designer because there is much more evidence to support that than the idea that we are here by chance.
The World is too intriguingly designed that it could not have all happened by chance. There's a master planner that's God on the background
Science has so many things it can't answer, only God has all answers.
Most scientific arguments and existence do not exactly disprove nature and Gods existence, they only point out to One thing, there's a force watching over the earth, it must be God!
The Christian Bible talks of time, space and matter in Genesis chapter one, these are all basic facts and concepts in sciences, so we need see this from positivity, they compliment, they are never antagonistic.
Love what you wrote. See science can't answer many things. In fact there are things that the science community found out later that was already written in scripture. Science is a good thing. It helps point to the creator of all life.
Micro and macro cosmos... We are, where we live in and the other way round. Lets take care of our world because, because our world do the same for us. Lets Love Life
My world image is constantly building up, i am learning someting new every day.
But i feel like our wolrd is a big organism and all living beings have their own task to serve this organism by living their lifes.
I think we are part of one soul "god" and all we experience is a part of a bigger consciousness, like a universal brain. Life is created by love, and sexual process. I imagine this in a methaphoric way...its like they are coming new ideas into your mind from nowhere. But actually they where created by the subcociousness which was bringing your thoughts together to create a new idea.
further i think humans have created their own Matrix our system. A prision which was build by egoistc intentions and which we force each other to live in.
Im sure its difficult to understand, beause like you know english isnt my native language and thinks like that are anyways difficult to desctibe.
chears! :)
Ok You can also look at us as being in a matrix in the way you put it too. A prison created by man. No worries I understood you well. I actually wish I knew more German. I know some but very little and I haven't practiced in a while.
There are countless pieces of evidence which all show that the universe is an intelligent design.
As a matter of fact, it takes more faith to believe that everything came into being by chance than it does take to believe that the universe is the work of God's intelligent design.
We can just listen to everyone's opinion but at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is what you believe in. Nature amazes us in so many ways especially by giving life. A great post again man. Amazing as always! Keep it up bro!
The "why why" analysis gives rise to the evaluation of scientific aspect and this is a never ending phenomena as well, because whatever we look around us is not that simple to conclude even in some years...
Thank you and Have a great day.
True that and what we see on the surface is not all there really is.
The mother has given this body as a loan to us and when we die this body will go back to mother earth and will disperse within the constituents of earth.
So the point is that we must make our life purposely, we are here for a specific purpose.
Thank you.
We were created from the dust and to the dust we will return. I do think too that we are more than just our physical body. We have spirit. As our bodies go back to the dirt our spirits go back to the creator. We all have a purpose in this world. And who would know what our purpose is better than the one who created all life.
It's not just a touchy subject rather it is a very lengthy subject and it is a never ending phenomena.
Thank you...steem on and stay blissful....
It is a deep thing to discuss. I say look at the evidence for both cases. Which one has more evidence and it much more logical. That's how we should look at it.
Have you researched Sacred Geometry at all? It's a fascinating subject and relates to the topics you mention here
If it deals with fractal geometry, fibonacci numbers, and the golden ratio then yes I am familiar with it. The way we create things usually don't have a fractal design to them but everywhere in nature there's this more complex geometric design know as fractals. Fractions of whole numbers basically and the structure has infinity built into it somehow. YOu can keep zooming in on fractals and it seems to go on forever and ever. Really freakish stuff.
Here's a book I plan on tackling. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Quadrivium-Number-Geometry-Music-Heaven/dp/190715504X
It deals with and so much more. It deals with what you said, frequency, vibration, magnetism and more. I'll have to look up Quadrivium.
Ah, but what if both are true?
What if what we think of as "God" is merely one of an infinitely ancient race of infinitely advanced beings who traveled the multiverses and laid the seeds for life to bloom in promising placed. What if the building blocks for us to EVOLVE were seeded here hundreds of millions of years ago, like a gardener might toss a bunch of seeds to create a random meadow?
What if what we think of as "THE Universe" is merely one of infinite iterations across infinite timelines, all of then with varying numbers of "God" traveling around, tending the garden... and each Universe rises and falls much the same way each season rises and falls, with germination, growth, bloom, harvest and decay?
Does that mean that Jesus/Yeshua/Mohammed cannot each be the "Son of God?" Absolutely not! Does it mean we cannot both have been created and evolved? Absolutely not.
One of the frailties of being human is that we limit our thoughts to what we can reasonably wrap our heads around. What if the famous quote "You can not see My face, for no man shall see Me and live" is not some warning, but merely an allusion to the fact your brain will explode if you try to grasp something SO COMPLEX it is beyond your capacity?
These are thoughts I often have... life is usually more complex than we think...
Ok you have made some very interesting points. Ok so we have complexity. True that. I really like your "what if" scenarios. Would these intelligent beings be able to make themselves known to us. Yes of course. But would they have any desire to make themselves known? Now that is one we wrestle with.
Also I think what you are describing there is infinite causes. Look I have done my best to study from both angles of first cause or infinite cause. I don't know enough to make a claim here. So your scenarios in that regard may have merit.
Is there evidence to support those complex ideas? Idk. In my opinion there's evidence to support the worldview of there being an intelligent designer that created with intention rather than chance. Randomness and chance don't beget order and structure to things. At least I'm not aware. There's order, patterns, symmetry, signatures, laws of nature, coded DNA. Hints of there being a wizard or wizards behind the curtain so to speak.
The other things you bought up are crazy to think about in a mind blowing way. We all want to know truth. Well at least I would hope so. Can every idea of where we come from and creation be true at the same exact time. Ummm. I think there would be some blatant contradictions to deal with. Otherwise that means there is no absolute truth and we can go around in this life in a free for all if everyone is right in their views. The impacts of a free for all would be catastrophic on earth. I mean just imagine if trump and kim jong un had no advisors , laws, or checks and balances in place. I would not bet my life that we would still be alive due to the evidence that even with those things in place human life is at stake.. I go with absolute truth because it is the standard we measure everything else against.
We are very limited in our knowledge regarding creation. That's why on many things I choose to simply say I don't know. I instead look for as much evidence as I can and see where that evidence leads.
Now you got my mind working. Good talking to you man.
The thing is we don't know. And at this point, we can only think of many theories based on facts and assumption.
It doesn't really matter for now. Maybe in future it will...
SO many theories yes. As you said there are many facts and assumptions. For me I choose to go with an intelligent designer because there is much more evidence to support that than the idea that we are here by chance.
The World is too intriguingly designed that it could not have all happened by chance. There's a master planner that's God on the background
Science has so many things it can't answer, only God has all answers.
Most scientific arguments and existence do not exactly disprove nature and Gods existence, they only point out to One thing, there's a force watching over the earth, it must be God!
The Christian Bible talks of time, space and matter in Genesis chapter one, these are all basic facts and concepts in sciences, so we need see this from positivity, they compliment, they are never antagonistic.
Love what you wrote. See science can't answer many things. In fact there are things that the science community found out later that was already written in scripture. Science is a good thing. It helps point to the creator of all life.
Micro and macro cosmos... We are, where we live in and the other way round. Lets take care of our world because, because our world do the same for us. Lets Love Life
Do you think we are in some sort of matrix?
My world image is constantly building up, i am learning someting new every day.
But i feel like our wolrd is a big organism and all living beings have their own task to serve this organism by living their lifes.
I think we are part of one soul "god" and all we experience is a part of a bigger consciousness, like a universal brain. Life is created by love, and sexual process. I imagine this in a methaphoric way...its like they are coming new ideas into your mind from nowhere. But actually they where created by the subcociousness which was bringing your thoughts together to create a new idea.
further i think humans have created their own Matrix our system. A prision which was build by egoistc intentions and which we force each other to live in.
Im sure its difficult to understand, beause like you know english isnt my native language and thinks like that are anyways difficult to desctibe.
chears! :)
Ok You can also look at us as being in a matrix in the way you put it too. A prison created by man. No worries I understood you well. I actually wish I knew more German. I know some but very little and I haven't practiced in a while.
There are countless pieces of evidence which all show that the universe is an intelligent design.
As a matter of fact, it takes more faith to believe that everything came into being by chance than it does take to believe that the universe is the work of God's intelligent design.
Randomness and chance can't account for patterns and symmetry. Many don't want to admit that fact.
We can just listen to everyone's opinion but at the end of the day, the only thing that matters is what you believe in. Nature amazes us in so many ways especially by giving life. A great post again man. Amazing as always! Keep it up bro!
Truth matters above all. It's just finding it that is the key thing.
Amen to that. Truth makes you vulnerable at some times but nothing can beat it!