you gotta peep all the info on laurel canyon bands just you tube search they are allconnected csn and young the eagles the mamas and papas the doors jackson browne etc connected to the mansons theres another group connected to manson in blythe california whrre little kids were kept in cages im trying to find info n it but its limited gotta search gibbons and blythe commune waitr i found it https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=DS19690911.2.23