Well, I guess, since the pre-human Australopithecines three million years ago until these blockchain days. Unfortunately, "Tribalism" still looks like an "Us vs Them trend among new actors perpetually trying that their own offspring scale up in the dominance hierarchy of the tribe.
Hence, Good, Bad or Indifferent? or Our Strength vs Our Downfall?
Uhmm, I suppose we'll have to see the outcomes yet after three million years more. Tsk Tsk }:)
If your identity is primarily defined by your "in-group," you may need to level up. You may be stuck in an older version of primate thinking.
That's what caught my eye, more than anything else.
And therein lies the great challenge; because thinking "above" requires a great deal of awareness and consciousness and many of our systems (educational, religious, sociological, political) are set up to guide us away from bring awake and engaging in critical thinking.
And goodness knows, it's easy to fall into "tribal thinking." But I also believe we have to do more than just sit around and say "well, that's just the way it is." Which I get the sense is what most ideologies would rather have be "the truth."
In your post, you mentioned (for example) your reticence with labels; with the "anarcho-capitalist" label. I always end up pondering labels for a while-- to me, they do have their usefulness, but only in the same way it's useful to know you wear size 10 shoes when you go shoe shopping. It's a piece of "useful information," but it doesn't determine what kind of shoes you buy. But it does save you some time when it comes to trying things on.
Tribalism seems to be running rampant at the moment; recent times seem to embrace the "us vs. them" mindset in ways we have not seen in a long time. I can't help but think it's making the path forward more challenging...
And goodness knows, it's easy to fall into "tribal thinking." But I also believe we have to do more than just sit around and say "well, that's just the way it is."
Alternative, you could see it as an acceptance of who we are (tribal).
Rather than intellectualize yourself out of a reality , would it not be better to move forward from accepting what is, and work from that perspective...
(Using the term what is, in this context - is hundreds of thousands of years of tribal structure, in all societies - and without any 'social engineers' involved.
Doesn't this tell us that is'what is?)
We are tribal - and I'm pretty sure we always will be.
See how comfortable you are going into a strange rough ghetto at 6 o'clock at night. Tribalism is alive and well - and healthy!
Working within this paradigm to make things better - is the way to go, (imo)
Social engineering is a forced changing of our nature. We are human beings before human thinkings - no matter how much our intellectual hubris fights this fact.
Social engineering -communism with patience, and a nice face..
I think we may be saying something similar, only approaching from different angles.
For me, tribalism itself isn't so much the problem as the seemingly strengthening trend to want to kill/silence/defeat/convert anyone who doesn't conform to the way "we" think they should think/smell/act/believe/ behave. Maybe the problem is less tribalism than intolerance.
When I was pretty broke, I lived in a ghetto part of east Austin... and yes, that was a "tribal" experience. And yet, I was OK as a "white boy living where the black tar flows," at least to a degree, because I was part of the 'hood.
You can't "force" people to ANYthing, successfully... but we can encourage the betterment of self for the broader benefit of ALL.
Maybe the problem is less tribalism than intolerance.
In all my travels, I've found intolerance in people is pretty rare.(very rare tbh)
Intolerance propagated by people with an agenda, is not.
Unfortunately some disgruntled people (low iq mob mentality) can be manipulated to become intolerant fascists!
As you say, living in a ghetto ( I have found), brings color and fun and lots of piss taking at my expense lol
I have only felt intolerance once in a 'ghetto'- and that was more teenagers, testosterone, mates around to impress, and a pretty girl I was with, tbh.
I tend to often be a "macro observer" of the human condition-- and so, I often end up looking at "people" and what motivates them.
These days, it seems we're seeing more intolerance (especially in the west) as a result of an economic divide that is fueling the "scarcity paradigm" in an ever growing sector of the population. Humans-- and all animal populations -- tend to become more aggressive when there is scarcity. Even if it's perceived scarcity. The negative aspects of tribalism bloom on perceptions (however incorrect) that "they HAVE, and we DON'T" which can give rise to a sort of violent intolerance.
I'm by no means about to "go postal" on the world, but I am very cognizant of the fact that I — and a fair number of my peers — are working 20% more for 20% less than we were, 25 years ago, in terms of effective buying power. I can also project that forward and understand that "retirement" is not something that will ever exist in my world. Not everyone views such an equation philosophically, though.
Things like the "Occupy" movement-- however misguided they may be-- didn't arise out of "thin air;" they arose out of an underlying socio-economic issue... again, we have another "us vs. them" tribal situation.
Take a look at my last few days/week posts - all are rothchilds, soros, banking related.
Things like the "Occupy" movement-- however misguided they may be-- didn't arise out of "thin air;" they arose out of an underlying socio-economic issue.
...they arose out of the money supplied by the left, to create agitation...
George Soros Funds Occupy Wall Street
Radical anti-American billionaire George Soros is a major backer of a left-wing group that is funneling money to the Occupy Wall Street movement.
The nonprofit organization at the receiving end of Soros’ largesse, Alliance for Global Justice, is managing donations benefiting the communists, socialists, anarchists...
(Things like the communist revolution movement-- however misguided they may be-- didn't arise out of "thin air;" they arose out of an underlying socio-economic issue).
.....they arose because western banks funded them to the tune of just under a billion dollars (today's money)
....one of many. Very industrious this last week! lol.
Well, I guess, since the pre-human Australopithecines three million years ago until these blockchain days. Unfortunately, "Tribalism" still looks like an "Us vs Them trend among new actors perpetually trying that their own offspring scale up in the dominance hierarchy of the tribe.
Hence, Good, Bad or Indifferent? or Our Strength vs Our Downfall?
Uhmm, I suppose we'll have to see the outcomes yet after three million years more. Tsk Tsk }:)
That's what caught my eye, more than anything else.
And therein lies the great challenge; because thinking "above" requires a great deal of awareness and consciousness and many of our systems (educational, religious, sociological, political) are set up to guide us away from bring awake and engaging in critical thinking.
And goodness knows, it's easy to fall into "tribal thinking." But I also believe we have to do more than just sit around and say "well, that's just the way it is." Which I get the sense is what most ideologies would rather have be "the truth."
In your post, you mentioned (for example) your reticence with labels; with the "anarcho-capitalist" label. I always end up pondering labels for a while-- to me, they do have their usefulness, but only in the same way it's useful to know you wear size 10 shoes when you go shoe shopping. It's a piece of "useful information," but it doesn't determine what kind of shoes you buy. But it does save you some time when it comes to trying things on.
Tribalism seems to be running rampant at the moment; recent times seem to embrace the "us vs. them" mindset in ways we have not seen in a long time. I can't help but think it's making the path forward more challenging...
Alternative, you could see it as an acceptance of who we are (tribal).
Rather than intellectualize yourself out of a reality , would it not be better to move forward from accepting what is, and work from that perspective...
(Using the term what is, in this context - is hundreds of thousands of years of tribal structure, in all societies - and without any 'social engineers' involved.
Doesn't this tell us that is'what is?)
We are tribal - and I'm pretty sure we always will be.
See how comfortable you are going into a strange rough ghetto at 6 o'clock at night. Tribalism is alive and well - and healthy!
Working within this paradigm to make things better - is the way to go, (imo)
Social engineering is a forced changing of our nature. We are human beings before human thinkings - no matter how much our intellectual hubris fights this fact.
Social engineering -communism with patience, and a nice face..
I think we may be saying something similar, only approaching from different angles.
For me, tribalism itself isn't so much the problem as the seemingly strengthening trend to want to kill/silence/defeat/convert anyone who doesn't conform to the way "we" think they should think/smell/act/believe/ behave. Maybe the problem is less tribalism than intolerance.
When I was pretty broke, I lived in a ghetto part of east Austin... and yes, that was a "tribal" experience. And yet, I was OK as a "white boy living where the black tar flows," at least to a degree, because I was part of the 'hood.
You can't "force" people to ANYthing, successfully... but we can encourage the betterment of self for the broader benefit of ALL.
In all my travels, I've found intolerance in people is pretty rare.(very rare tbh)
Intolerance propagated by people with an agenda, is not.
Unfortunately some disgruntled people (low iq mob mentality) can be manipulated to become intolerant fascists!
As you say, living in a ghetto ( I have found), brings color and fun and lots of piss taking at my expense lol
I have only felt intolerance once in a 'ghetto'- and that was more teenagers, testosterone, mates around to impress, and a pretty girl I was with, tbh.
A person isn't stupid. People are.
Indeed, a person isn't stupid.
I tend to often be a "macro observer" of the human condition-- and so, I often end up looking at "people" and what motivates them.
These days, it seems we're seeing more intolerance (especially in the west) as a result of an economic divide that is fueling the "scarcity paradigm" in an ever growing sector of the population. Humans-- and all animal populations -- tend to become more aggressive when there is scarcity. Even if it's perceived scarcity. The negative aspects of tribalism bloom on perceptions (however incorrect) that "they HAVE, and we DON'T" which can give rise to a sort of violent intolerance.
I'm by no means about to "go postal" on the world, but I am very cognizant of the fact that I — and a fair number of my peers — are working 20% more for 20% less than we were, 25 years ago, in terms of effective buying power. I can also project that forward and understand that "retirement" is not something that will ever exist in my world. Not everyone views such an equation philosophically, though.
Things like the "Occupy" movement-- however misguided they may be-- didn't arise out of "thin air;" they arose out of an underlying socio-economic issue... again, we have another "us vs. them" tribal situation.
Take a look at my last few days/week posts - all are rothchilds, soros, banking related.
...they arose out of the money supplied by the left, to create agitation...
.....they arose because western banks funded them to the tune of just under a billion dollars (today's money)
....one of many. Very industrious this last week! lol.
https://steemit.com/blog/@lucylin/black-lives-matter-more-like-communist-useful-idiot-s