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RE: Are we having a discussion or should I treat this as a sermon?
Science as a religion. Where all science is settled science.
When I meet these people, it just hurts. My heart cries for them.
Because science is (or maybe was) about finding out new things, constantly developing new theories and testing them.
Now, I have conversations with people and they make a statement as a fact, and if I question it, they go ballistic. Even if I know much much much more than them. Like a person talking about circuit design (and stating something that is physically impossible) while I hold a soldering iron in my hand.
So, what do you do in a debate, when you figure out, that this is not a debate, this will be you explaining the basics to a person who thinks they know everything?
Decide if you have the time. Decide if you want to put fort the effort even if you may get no return on investment for that time.
Case by case basis. Unfortunately some of those people you can't help too easily. You can do what I do sometimes rather than debating them...
If you're going to have to talk about basic things and foundational concepts that seems better as a post than a reply. Why? At least then other people might learn something from it, or someone that is not them that can poke a hole in it and knows what they are talking about might respond. :)