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RE: The U.S. spends more than double in defense spending for NATO
If we can have 10,000 troops anywhere in the world in 3 days, why do we need bases overseas? (The 10,000 number is something I recall hearing during the First Bush era), so that number could be wrong.
During the first go around in the middle east were there not a few "NATO" countries said no launching offensives from the bases in our country. So what could did it do back then, if we were not able to fully utilize our overseas bases.
Please explain how we can get 10,000 troops, and presumeably their equipment since they'd be useless without it, anywhere in the world in three days. That's 72 hrs
anywhere in the world would mean 18,000 miles or less. that's 18,000/72 = 250 mph..(average speed)
Consider how fast transport planes fly, (since nothing else is fast enough) how much they carry, how many of them are available, how fast it takes to load them. how far the planes can travel before refuelingf, how to refuel them, how to supply ten thousand troops with coffee...oh..and food, while in transit. Pottie stops.... etc.
show your work.
I was unable to find the story about deployment times, seems that the 82nd airborne is the only ones that can get anywhere they want with equipment in 48 to 72 hours by one report thats 5,000 men and their equipment.
But they do not have very much heavy equipment. it takes two week to reach the mediterranean by ship, from a few things I read, so I do not recall when I heard that, figure from a politician. I do know that the along with the 82nd airborne the 101st Airborne in the 80's had the ability to be deployed at a pretty rapid pace also.
With C5's range unloaded, I could not find a range listed when fully loaded: 6,320 nm (11,705km) without cargo; Unlimited with inflight refueling. Is a pretty good reach.
Found a second site 3500 nm 151,000 pounds of cargo, upto 2 CH47 helicopters.
But it has been a long time since I was in the military, and I am sure things have changed. For my unit to deploy took three to five days. Thats break down, pack, and rebuild what was broken down for transport.
Load time would vary depending on items. trucks and people not to long to load a C5.
So I don't think I can come up with any hard and fast figures, for time scale to deploy troops. So Like one report I read, 45 days would be about it. So a 3 day deployment is only going to happen when it is the 82nd Airborne, or a marine detachment, that need little support from the desk sitters.
yup..just a tiny bit of an exaggeration?
question:
why would we WANT to have 10K troopies anywhere in the world in three days?
when did we take on the job of being the world's daddy?
That is the problem, we should not be babysitting the world. When if we or any country goes to war, it should be for conquest. Not for he called me fat reasons, or he kicked sand in my face. Once a war is won, then they are a conquered populace. This go in give a country a bloody nose, then just leave is bull. We need to return to, or if we have never been there, "we won, you lost, our rules now, not yours." That means the women are free to dress how they please, they are free to educate themselves, the children are not consenting adults until 16 years of age, and less than that sex is strictly forbidden. The laws of your religion do not trump the laws of the victors.
There are no consequences for war anymore, so we have war. We have people dying because some politician got his panties in a bunch. War is not a game and it should not be portrayed as a game.
That's kinda what I thought when I was being shot at in South East Asia in the early seventies.
How'd that work out?