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RE: Delegation Issue

in #delegations5 years ago

An immediate hard fork to fix one issue that was identified. Sorry but totally stupid idea.

Because this is preventing Steemit from creating new Steem accounts,

Wait at least one week. So no one can be on boarded during that week, big deal, it's not like that has ever been a priority. Take a look back and see how knee jerk reactions helped HF20. Down for a few days, problems left and right. Make a post that people can REPORT issues they are having right now with HF21, before jumping right into HF22 for a one item fix. There are other issues, and no where to report them simply. Yeah yeah tell me all about go to Discord, or go to Steem chat, or go to our face book page or our twitter page!!! Sorry we have nowhere for you to actually report the problems encountered on our Steem Block Chain, (kind of stupid really), so use some other social media outlet to let us know what the issue is.

How about a simple *Hey Folks we would like to know if you have experienced any glitchs in our steem world matrix, just leave us a comment so we can check it out. Then you might have gotten a response like this issue I am having:

Hey great job guys, but I am experiencing this issue. I use chrome for my browser, I used to be able to right click open in a new window links from my feed. I can still do that however I can not vote or comment so far about 75 % of the time in the new window. It does work, vote and comment wise, some times but not always,

I am sure there are other people looking for an easy method to let you know something is wrong, pin a post to the top of the feeds and give them the opportunity to post problems they are having. Then talk to the witnesses about an emergency HF22.

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One important thing to note is that currently exchanges are down to update to the HF21 code. Giving them a new code to implement now is much more efficient than waiting for them to get back up and then telling them they need to do another HF.. which would most likely occur if Steemit Inc. “waited a week”. Just something to consider... I don’t think anyone is excited for another fork, but we have to push forward.

If it takes more than a couple of hours for an exchange to do an update to a software program, then it is not a very efficient system I guess, I do not know how long it takes to do their updates. I do not know a lot about crypto currencies, I know a lot of the other block chains have a lot more HF's than Steem. The first year for steem saw 19 HF. I have been on steemit for just over two years HF20 was the first I went through, was anyone concerned about the number of HF's in that first year?

On Friday what happens if Busy.org finds a bug that effect them? Will their request for a HF23 be passed over? On Tuesday when the first payouts from HF21 start to come in and if things go bonkers during that time frame is it going to be because of HF21 or HF22? If you wanted to delegate SP to some one right now you could do it. Are we expecting the witness to just blanket approve this HF22 with out testing it or even looking at it? It took over two months for the witnesses to look over HF21.

I think they need to continue to evaluate the fork, and watch for other problems before just blindly, (that is the way it seems to me), throwing up another hard fork. I can delegate steem and if I can delegate then almost any one else should be able to. So to me this seems strictly a Steemit Issue.

There are other issues, and no where to report them simply.

Knock yourself out - https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues

You see there we go again a place outside of steemit to report issue about steemit to steemit people. I have actually been to github, I looked and decided I did not want to spend days or a week or more to figure it out. Let alone sign up to another site that is controlled by Microsoft. If I could leave a note there with out signing up I likely still would not. Microsoft controls github, they own it and can block or ban at whim. It has already happened to a few people.

So once again, lets not make it easy on people to tell us where a problem is, then we won't need to spend precious time and resources trying to fix it.

Thanks for trying to point out a place, but it is still outside of steemit and the steem block chain. A decentralized system to reach the world.

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There are more than just that one story.

Just like your comment, alot of the grievances in the comments contends to the front end of Steemit.com or other interfaces. These frankly can be reported anywhere as long as you identify and reach out to someone responsible. It doesnt have anything to do with witnesses nodes or consensus.

The issue that steemitblog raises on the OP comes from the consensus rules themselves, the back end. Which will require a hard fork to fix. I support that a the hard fork comes asap since this is a patch and not an update.

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s long as you identify and reach out to someone responsible.

Kind of the issue isn't it finding some one that will accept being the responsible person/group. Steemitblog is steemit. An official voice of steemit. The fact that steemit can not delegate Steem is a steemit issue. If I want to delegate some steem I can do it. So steemit can not and they want another immediate Hard Fork. If no one could delegate steem then yes it might be an issue that needed an immediate fix.
Here is from their post above:

Because this is preventing Steemit from creating new Steem accounts,

It is preventing steemit, it's not preventing me from creating tokens or going to one of the other account creation places. just steemit. In the past any time any one brought up steem block chain and steemit int he same comment it was always that they are not the same. The witnesses and steemit and all can say the witnesses do not work for steemit, but that is not how it is, is it. The witnesses are supposed to protect the chain, not steemit. After one day they found one bug, and want a hard fork because that one bug effects them, not you nor me or anyone else. They need to wait to see what other bugs are in the system. It takes a week for payouts and changes to be fully done. If they do another hard fork right away, next Tuesday are the possible screwed up anythings going to be because of HF21 or HF22? There is no harm in waiting a week to ensure, that there are no more bugs, no more hidden problems that just have not crept up yet.

It is far to early to do another HF. Let it HF21 run at least a couple of days if they do not want to wait a week. Which brings up the question of why they really want it now? Is there some other problem they are trying to fix? Is there already other bugs they found? Did something not work they way they really wanted it to? I get very leery of we fixed it, then OOPS we need to fix it again action.

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