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RE: Lessons learned from bot operation during "the whale experiment" and hardfork 18

in #curation8 years ago (edited)

Thanks for the plug for FOSSbot! 😆 And interesting post

The trending page is now thoroughly dominated by posts about steem and steemit. I consider this to be a negative consequence.

I agree. I actually suggested that we could voluntarily tag "technical" posts with #no-trend to avoid this, and for steemit.com to respect this by not including it in their trending aggregation. From the post:

I don't think @sneak is taking ideas at the moment but it's one for the pile. I've added the tag #no-trend to this post as an idea for it. Of course, I'm not so big headed yet to think this will make it to top of trending! 😅


Edit: also just noticed your last chart uses 3D bars. This violates the area principle, which states that

the area of a graph should equal the magnitude of the data it is representing

Nit picking for sure, but just thought I'd mention it

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just noticed your last chart uses 3D bars. This violates the area principle

Good point. I'm frequently switching back and forth when I update the numbers for just that reason, but I just prefer the 3d look. I should have thought to flatten it for posting.

I'm not so big headed yet to think this will make it to top of trending!

That was along the lines of my first thought when I read the suggestion. Most of us aren't going to expect our post to trend at posting time. But, we could always edit the post and add the #no-trend tag later. Maybe steemit could even exempt tag that from the 5 tag maximum. I like the idea.

Although, I think one point of the trending list is to let people monitor for high-value abusive voting before payout. I guess the devs would need to be sure not to give abusive voting/author teams a way to hide their activity.

Although, I think one point of the trending list is to let people monitor for high-value abusive voting before payout. I guess the devs would need to be sure not to give abusive voting/author teams a way to hide their activity.

Now that is a good point 😵 Anyone who disagrees with down voting / flagging to reduce reward payout (there are many) would be tickled by that idea. I hadn't thought of it but yep, it's relevant. But I thought that number of comments and the rep of the commenters had something to do with the trending page too right? Or is it just est. payout?

It was commenters too. As demonstrated by @transisto's example, here. Although, I just found this, from @smooth, in that post's comments:

It's actually not a known "issue", it is intended. The idea being that any high rewards, even buried in comments, would become visible and can be scrutinized by stakeholders for possible downvoting.

It is being removed because maintaining the tree sum on a blockchain isn't feasible if you don't limit the comment depth.

so maybe it's just top-level posts now.

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