RE: Using Vote Bots And Self-Upvoting Affects Reputation
It took a while to piece that tidbit about self-upvoting together, but I found it in a comment on a post about something else.
Of course, if you don't have much SP it's not going to move things that fast. But the more you get, the more it affects it. It's still going to be incremental, but combined with what a self-upvote is giving you, plus what it's potentially taking away from a curator, it seems to work more and more against the human curator.
As for the oddity, we'd be in the minority on that one. In my mind, we might as well set a price on how much we think the post is worth, because even if we're just trying to make something off the post by retaining our own portion of the reward pool, we're setting a minimum value to our post.
I wouldn't mind that if the amount went to curation, rather than back to you. Then, it would act more like advertising. Of course, it would only be fair if no one upvoted, or only one did, either the full amount, or a portion of it came back to you. You self-upvoted, no one bit, back to you it goes.
What I find funny is you can flag yourself too lol, I've been very naughty today, time to flag. :)
The thing is if they removed self voting then it would force people to vote for others, that might not fix all the problems but surely it would help? Like it would probably cause some to just make another account, but a lot of people probably would start using it properly... maybe.. haha
I don't know, maybe it would. I'd love to give people the benefit of the doubt, but it's just as likely that second or third or fourth account would get open, or something else would be done to take it's place. People seem to take great pride in creating workarounds, or ways to "game" the system. I mean, it's amazing the lengths some people are prepared to go to acquire every possible scintilla of reward money.
I find accounts all the time, that just post shit to a random made up tag so they don't show up anywhere, they won't comment anywhere except their own basically hidden post because they are in hiding, then just upvote themselves.
So that's your secret. :D
I think if you remove the self-vote, those people will just create bots or use alt accounts to vote for them. There's always a workaround. The only way past it would be some kind of KYC.
Honestly, I'm surprised that Steemit doesn't have some kind of identification system. After all, they allow the posting of NSFW content and they allow kids as young as 13 to sign up. That's not ok in the USA. I' surprised there haven't been legal issues from that as Steemit is knowingly providing a space where kids under 18 can look at porn and not have to say they're over 18. There's no verification process.
Wow, that took a tangent!
One of my many secrets.. :p
Yes people can already use services that auto vote a specific account, so whatever is done it's never going to be perfect.. lol, only way is to remove the reward system completely then they all leave. haha
Problem is, it will still be on the blockchain, anyone can just post stuff to it and it will show up here, no way to police it really, except for flagging it. As far as I know the NSFW feature is fairly new and it's purely just a front end feature of steemit, nothing to do with the blockchain itself, so it just hides anything tagged with that here. I suppose that is at least something good.
Obviously you've got some good secrets. We all got killed this week. I thought I was doing really well, but apparently not. That or the whole thing was depressed this week. Oh, well. Fight goes on.
SC has been really busy this week.
What type of things are you mainly reporting anyway?
I stick with just plagiarism or photo's.
Those are both great ones, and fairly easy to spot. photography tag abuse is easy too. I mean, the ones where they don't even put a photo? Come on! :P It kinda depends on what I see as I surf. I also get comment spammers sometimes. Although that one is harder if they only do 8 crappy comments per day.
Sorry for hijacking your post, @glenalbrethsen!