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RE: Illegal immigration....

in #culture7 years ago

Do YOU have facts? I can do what you did too, Watch

Actually in 2014 there was a decrease in immigration, and we are handing billions to Canadian pharmaceutical companies who want the wall built. They said so in 2011.

Just because you use dates and propaganda terms doesn't make it facts moron. What is your source? what are the comparative numbers? percentages?

Here I will help, because I know you would just go to www.insertrightallignednewssourcehere.com to get some bullshit

First of all, yes lets build a 25 Billion dollar wall, spend millions in maintenance on something that doesnt even eliminate the whole source. What about planes? Planes account for 27 - 40% of people illegally crossing. (Politifact Sep 8 2015) So I guess we need an air wall too. That same article found that almost 40% of "illegal immigrants" actually CROSSED THE BORDER legally, then they stayed beyond what their visa allowed and became illegal. Once again making a wall futile.

In fact the Reagan, Bush AND Clinton administrations all made big adjustments to the immigration process making it increasingly harder for people to cross. (IRCA in 1986, the IMMACT of 1990, REAL id act of 2005, the 'Gang of eight" in 2013. it goes on...obviously politicians have been so idle on this...)

Also, these all caused a stop in circular motion, most Mexicans would come and work and leave, when all these happened it made it increasingly hard to cross back INTO Mexico, so most stayed cause an increase by 248% in "illegal immigrants" even though it wasn't "illegal" at their time of immigration.(Douglas S Masey PHD , Sociological professor at Princeton)

in 1986 it is estimated that 1,602,544 million people crossed illegally

in 2005 it was down to 1,676,438

In 2015 - 337,117

(Stats from US Border Patrol 2015)

So, ya, lets keep spending money and time on this obviously growing issue....

Are you sure you ARENT the one brainwashed here bud?

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So we should have open borders? What are you suggesting?

I'm suggesting that this is an unimportant issue. Just the idea of someone bringing this up is stupid. Its the equivalent of someone one dangling their keys to keep a toddlers attention. We already have the a controlled border, it is not perfect, but it is as close as it is going to get without closing borders and becoming North Korea esque.

by the way on your "ask mexico" point THE UNITED STATES SUGGESTED, ENFORCED, and PAID FOR the wall on the southern border of Mexico... to protect the US from South America, this has ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE, these aren't new arguments, just new to you buddy. If you are going spout politics, get some facts

Illegal immigration is an unimportant issue? I disagree

Of course you do, its your narrative.. thus my point, regardless of the facts presented, you are set in your ways, you refuse to change that out of pride maybe, or you refuse, because it pushes your own narrative, you are just like all the news sources you claim to hate lol

I ask you this, why is Illegal Immigration an Important issue.

Please refrain from "I feel and I think" Use actual stats from respectable sources, Show me why it is such a big deal, also, show how and what we need to address in reference to illegal immigration, what could we change that we haven't already tried in the past, that we haven't already brought in front of congress,

Or you could just say, uh uh, I disagree , again...

im so down to sit down and have this conversation with you. In fact ive tried before. It's probably best we dont until you are capable of having it like a normal human being. We are both adults. We should be able to have a conversation like adults.

I should not be able to pack my stuff, move to another country, vote, and receive the same benefits as everyone else. I should follow the system that country has setup for doing so. I dont understand what is so difficult about understanding this.

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