i am here because of YOU Jerry. i tagged you in my first post but you prolly missed it... im good fun and enjoy computers and technology.. in fact im a computer specialist that has rebuilt and repaired pc computers as a job going back to around 1993... before that i was limited to my only other computer system ( ive owned personally..) the atari 800. we have come a longggggggg way since 1978 no more are the days of 32k memory ;), or the suffering involved of having the ONLY modem available for the atari 800... a 300 baud speedster. ( $500 itself ! and it used couplers !! and also would take 24 hrs to download 1.44k disk @ 2400 baud IF no error !!! )