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RE: Canada TV personality Steve Ecklund Kills Cougar And Brags About It
Big cats are exotic game and I say NO to exotic game killing. Go hunt a snake or something!
Big cats are exotic game and I say NO to exotic game killing. Go hunt a snake or something!
Yes, big cats are "exotic", but cows are fair game to all meat-craving bipedal species alike!
IMO, if you eat meat and you disapprove of a man hunting for meat, you're either in denial of the fact that your eating meat indirectly leads to killing for meat or you're a hypocrite. You're a fool or dishonest, take your pick (I'm not talking directly to you, rather to people with meat in their diet).
My guess is that this person is not hunting for meat (he can get his meat at Walmart). He's in it for the sport. And if he were that hungry, he would eat a snake or a snail, now wouldn't he? And for what it's worth, cows are not exotic game, which was my point to begin with.
Wal-Mart's toxic piles of muscle tissue and chemicals are NOT meat. That's disgusting.
Mountain Lions are not exotic, either. they are native to Canada.... ("Exotic:
originating in or characteristic of a distant foreign country.")
Big cats are all classified as"exotic" by the Humane Society and most other animal classifiers. That's like saying elephants are not considered "exotic" in Africa.
Just because the Human Society has redefined words doesn't mean that those words are accurate...
All irrelevant anyways, for 2 reasons. Number one is because obviously this man is eating the animal he has harvested, and Mountain Lions are good food. Number two, is there seems to be no classification of Cougars as "Exotic"....http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/cougars/ (Can I get a little help, please? I have been tearing the web up, and still no sign...)
Hunters do something that Vegans never could: Admit they kill to eat, and actually take the responsibility for their own sustenance versus leaving someone else to murder and mutilate for them.
Who is truly more selfish?
"Hunters do something that Vegans never could: Admit they kill to eat, and actually take the responsibility for their own sustenance versus leaving someone else to murder and mutilate for them"
Oh I see that you are a vegan expert now... Excuse me, but who is killing and mutilating for them? what is being killed for them?
Not a vegan though, I admit I eat meat, and I have seen how animals are killed so that I can eat. It makes you think about it twice before buying a stake. I barely eat meat because I'm aware... No need to eat meat all the time...
I like that you talked about biomass in your other coment because, eating carnivores is highly inefficent.
I remember from school that only 10% of biomass passes throug to the next step on the food chain:
You can read more.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/science/edexcel_pre_2011/environment/populationsandpyramidsrev3.shtml
Also, the fact that he took a picture of himself with the dead animal all smiles... Makes me think that he had a GREAT time killing It. He could have eatten it at home with his family and friends BUT HE DIDN'T. He took a trophy picture so we all can critizise him.
What B.S! Hunters kill for sport and rarely is it done to feed their family. This is not the 19th century!
I only hunt for meat. No sport involved.
If I kill it, it gets eaten.
If you hunt to eat, then I assume you do it full time. If you shop for meat at all, then your hunting is for sport. Anything else would be hipocracy.
I agree with you.
This man is killing because he wants to kill. It would be ideal to not kill animals in order to eat, but NO NEED to kill for fun. How is it fun??? where is the pleasure?
It would be ideal if our creator (or evolution) hadn't developed us into Biomass consuming entities that roam the lands digesting the lifeforms of the Earth...
But as it stands, everything that's alive kills something else to survive. Fucking Nature...
We could, maybe, eat less meat than we do, being omnivores...
"https://sciencing.com/being-vegetarian-conserve-overall-energy-trophic-levels-3342.html"
I'm not sure how you'd know that he does it for fun, but if that's true, I somewhat agree that it's wrong.
I say somewhat because I feel that not so deep within our genetics in what we could call our "primal instincts" lies a pleasure/ reward system for a successful hunt, particularly in men, as we didn't really have much choice but to hunt for our own food not so long in the distant past. It could just be that he's happy to have provided meat for his family, fulfilling one of his primal roles as the man of the family, which I'm fine with.
If, however, he does it because he simply has a thirst for killing animals, then it's a problem, as that's not only disrespectful to life (of which we should all be grateful for and aim to protect in others) but rather concerning regarding his psychology (enjoying things like killing is a good indicator of psychopathy and other mental disorders that may pose threat to others).
Motive is EVERYTHING and I don't think it's right to assume motive. I completely support the "innocent until proven guilty" approach to judging others, as I have direct experience with how unfair it is to be looked down on for something I didn't do.
If he had a hungry family to feed he wouldn't have taken this picture.
Is he sad that he had to kill another animal in order to eat? doesn't look like it to me. Not everyone feels sad to eat meat, no need.
Maybe just not being so happy next to this wonderful, but now dead, animal would do for me.
But you're missing a point that I made in my first post. If you eat meat, you indirectly contribute to the death of that animal, because you are part of the demand that is bringing in future supply of meat. Do people that eat meat cry from sadness that the animal was killed in order for them to eat it? No. They smile and share jokes with their friends and family around the dinner table as they wipe the blood off their mouths with a napkin.
Do you not see the hypocrisy?
The only difference here is that this man provided it for himself (and his family) instead of having someone else do the killing and butchering.
It's analogous to choosing between murdering someone yourself or hiring a hitman to do it. Either way, you're contributing to a murder.
Yes, that is something to think about.