Flat Earth Facebook Memes: Scraping the Absolute Bottom of the Intellectual Barrel

in creationism •  2 years ago  (edited)


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I apologize in advance if any of these cause your brain to liquefy and begin bubbling out your nose in a desperate effort to escape. If you've read this prior article of mine, you'll have some idea of what sort of belief system could compel adult human beings living in a first world country to make stuff like this.


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Stuff like this comes from a place of deep, deep assumption. A great many people, having been raised from birth to believe that the Bible is unquestionably true, have naturally concluded that because every field of science contradicts the cosmology and account of human origins found in Genesis...all of science must be satanic conspiracy to turn people away from Christ.


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This means trusting Biblical claims over anything a non-Christian scientist has discovered which contradicts them. Unavoidably, this puts even NASA in conflict with scripture, in the places where scripture describes the structure of the Earth and the cosmos.

A recurring theme you might notice is that these people mistake holes in their own understanding of basic physics for errors in science. Rather than think "this does not make sense to me, but I bet there is a scientific explanation I don't yet know about" they instead think "This does not make sense to me. Because I have complete knowledge of everything, that means scientists have either made a mistake here or are liars".


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When I say basic physics, I mean stuff like the fact that local gravity pulls inward towards the center of the Earth, not "down" according to the orientation globes are typically displayed in. They do not understand that there is no objective up and down in space.


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When all scientific findings about the Earth and the cosmos contradict your religion, but you're 100% committed to your religion, what choice is left but to conclude that all of science is just one big conspiracy against your religion in particular?

As if it's so good, pure, true and important that the entire discipline of science, the world over, was invented purely to attack it. That's a grade A victim complex right there. The alternative possibility, that their religion is false, doesn't seem to even occur to them. It's simply off the table.


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You can see the same backwards thinking in the pic above. Rather than concluding that scripture describes stars this way because the authors were ignorant of the size of stars, they instead conclude that if science says stars are that big, science must be wrong because it contradicts the Bible.

This is such a heavily slanted mindset, that someone who thinks this way could never even possibly be convinced their beliefs are untrue, no matter what evidence you showed them.


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A flat Earth covered by a solid dome would be unambiguously artificial. It could not come about naturally, as spherical planets that form by gravitational accretion of debris can, so it would point strongly to the existence of a creator.

The alternative they never consider is that the authors of the Bible speculated that Earth was shaped that way because they believed in a creator. The same reason why the Norse religion, Egyptian religion and so on also included flat Earth cosmologies.

From their perspective, the motive for NASA to hide evidence of a flat Earth is to prevent people from concluding that the Earth was created by Yahweh, the god of the Bible. Again, their reasoning is somewhat more comprehensible if you put yourself in their shoes and assume very strongly as your premise that the Bible is completely true.


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The meme above repeats a common strategy I have seen before from evangelicals, which is to accuse any organization they want to discredit of being secret worshipers of demons or competing religions.

You see this in Jack Chick comics which purport that Muslims actually worship a Moon goddess, which is in fact a disguised demon. Ask any Muslim if that's what they believe and they will laugh at you before possibly exploding.


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There's a lot of disagreement even within this special ed circus of a movement over the exact details. Some believe the Earth is not a disc but an infinitely extending flat plane. Some believe that beyond the ice wall are other flat worlds that could be reached.

Amusingly, proponents of a hollow Earth, an equally stupid idea, believe flat Earthism is a false flag intended to make hollow Earthism look stupid. Which is weird, since I've heart flat Earthers say the same thing about the hollow Earth people:


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Once you stop applying critical thought and requiring empirical support for claims, you have taken the first step away from truth and into madness. No matter how sound your reasoning is after that point, it progresses from a faulty premise and as such can only lead you further and further astray, until you're posting on Facebook about lizard men and greys from Zeta Reticuli living inside the hollow Earth, or NASA faking the moon landing to prevent the public from finding out the Earth is flat.


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I wish these were fake. But I've spoken to these people. They are for real. Unless every one of them is doing a lifelong Andy Kauffman style act, these people really do believe what they say they do.

Assuming they can't really be that insane or stupid only enables them to continue spreading their beliefs unopposed, which (for example) is how creationism has made such headway as of late.


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I wish there wasn't so much of it either, but there is. Take a gander at this gallery of posts from one of several flat Earth Facebook groups. Even that is still just a tiny slice.

This is a problem that cannot be solved by ignoring it. Live and let live, "back off and let people believe what they want" apparently results in absolute insanity swallowing up and destroying scientific truth.

It's tempting to imagine it will sort itself out somehow, because the alternative is tedious, grueling argument. The sort where you must remain polite and restrain yourself from laughing at or insulting these people, otherwise they only dig in their heels further.

This is insidious too, because it satisfies a popular desire to feel as if they're onto some grand conspiracy. That they are not deceived, but clear headed free thinkers...but crucially, in a way which assumes the Bible is true. It's like the retarded alternative to actual free thinking for people who want to feel enlightened without having to learn anything.

What's to be done except engage these people? Reason with them? Even if the best we can do is to unfuck their brains one at a time, if enough of us do it, we might be able to turn the tides. What does the outcome look like if we don't?

P.S. Just so Muslims don't feel left out:


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  ·  2 years ago (edited)

I just can't even believe we're still having this conversation in 2017. For a long time I wanted to believe flat Earthers were just trying to be ironic/make a joke. The more I see them though the more sad it makes me.

People are dumb.

Don't worry, I have a plan.

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Lmao! I just have hope that natural selection will eventually run it's course!

No prob, me too.

Rofl

Also thank you for all those votes lol. You didn't have to do that but I appreciate it!

I can understand your posts, and what you wrote suggests that you did more than skim the headline before responding. That is better than most of the replies I get.

Rofl tell me about it. There seems to be an aweful lot of "Nice post I follow you you follow me,,,,."

"Ask any Muslim if that's what they believe and they will laugh at you before possibly exploding." I see what you did there ^^

Oh God I only just got that... Lmao

Haha I instantly got it and laughed at this. But yeah it's well "disguised" :P

I dont know what to say about this XD I think somebody is fooling with people

We could always start taking them up in space and tossing them.

Part of me suspects they do it as a ploy to irritate NASA into supplying them with a free ride into space. If so, well played.

I might have to start doing this then. Flat Earth R Us, here I come!

My brain is officially damaged from these memes!

On the upside, now you can finally enjoy watching the Matrix sequels.

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I knew all along that the earth was flat!
I told them, but they didn't believe! No one believes!

Flat earthers rustle my jimmies. Where are the turtle on top of turtles supporting the world people?

It's underneath the elephants, naturally.

I want to ride that turtle!

Sure that guy Alexis from the Facebook profile, will cause me an Stroke if I keep reading

I am still shocked that people believe in the flat earth theory. Maybe it was because when I was a kid I was really into the Young Astronauts program but when you put religious beliefs into play common sense can go out the window.

I don't believe that we are still discussing this issue these days ... This shows the level of madness that society finds itself in. Day after day we observe the attempt to deconstruct reality.

That's crazy :O

People are dumb.

The smart money is in selling popcorn to the spectators as they watch the world burn

I'm already sitting in the front row :)

It's mind boggling in this day and age we still have this shit going on. I just ran into a flat earther on here a few days ago who was flagging a guys post for posting some satellite images that he thought were pretty. He and another flat earther were just blabbing their bullshit on and on and being general cretins.

flat-earthers are ridiculous, i'm suprised that many people actually believe in this theory. there are so many ways to prove it wrong, funny memes lol!

hahahahh made my day

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The middle ages are back lol
It seems a lot of people hadn't had a laugh like this for years!

Where do you dig this stuff out of. Some people mine coins, I guess you mine hilarious stupidity :P

@alexbeyman - I had scene the videos supporting flat earth theory on YouTube but had not realised the extent of absurdity to which the proponents of the theory willing to go. Having faith is one thong but discarding scientific evidence because the discovery was made by a non-Christian scientist is a bit too much. I Like the funny one with oceans flowing towards the bottom of the globe 😂

Thanks for sharing. Upvoted.

I have 'wasted' my weekend without getting 'wasted' and written a rather philosophical post about my butterfly and bee pictures called Float/Sting..What is your strategy. I request you to see and provide your views if you have time. Your comments will be very welcome. Thanks

I will be sure to take a look later today.

Thank you so much @alexbeyman for time to time i have argument with some peoples who are telling me that the earth is flat. I heard all kind of non sense. Even from high position peoples. Yes , like earth is flat, space is a projection to make us believe we are in space, other if you look at a tower from far you still can see it so the earth is not curved or even if you take the plane at night you cannot see any stars. So last time i was with one of these guy flying from Thailand to Hong Kong and luckily the fly start at night. I get a windows seat and him next to me and 5 minute after taking off i tell him to look at my window and tell me what are the little bright point in the sky. So today i made him change his stupid thinking and i am always happy to remind him how stupid was is idea and i tell him do you learn this with the big sheik from the islamic state who say the same thing, Lol. Thank you for your post hope it will open some eyes. ^ and follow you. Cheer

Not a bad way to get through to him. I am still somewhat surprised that it worked.

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You know @alexbeyman today peoples are not believing in government and it is a good thing but many of them are ready t believe in all kind of bullshit as they see the truth they believe in for decade are today no more the truth in certain fields

What can we believe in, except our own ability to critically evaluate everything we see and hear? Each of us is responsible for researching the basis of an idea before accepting or rejecting it, and making sure the sources we trust are credible.

However many people are too lazy for this or have political/religious/emotional reasons to accept or reject an idea regardless of how well or poorly supported it may be. That's just tribalism at work.

This physically hurt to read. I had no idea that flat earthers had such a big movement. I don't think I could do the work you did scraping through the scummy tepid waters of these Facebook groups...

It's ok, I was wearing a full body condom for the duration of it.

My brain literally went on another level reading these memes :D @alexbeyman

I'm continuously baffled by people who believe flat earth theory. I've never met one personally and I don't even know how I'd respond if someone expressed that belief to me. I'd probably try to just change the subject and leave the conversation as soon as possible hahaha

ahahah ... Always enjoyed your articles. This was a funny one.

Viva the dictatorship of science!

I've come to the conclusion that the "rabbit hole" is so deep. Almost makes one scared to dig any deeper. It's almost like , and possibly the right conclusion, that everything we were told and taught to be true has been all a hoax or outright lie. Mind boggling , to say the least. This flat earth concept is the latest revelation. Ladies and gentleman, we've been "hoodwinked." Ultimate question is , Why?

Did you...read the post? Are you one of these people for real or just goofing?

Earth is Flat i knew it :P

These meme are hilarious and the Last PS : LOL

i am enjoying this one some crazy level stuff.

i am sitting here and laughing out on this funniest article.

Great post and great memes. :D Loved the earth talk!

because every field of science contradicts the cosmology and account of human origins found in Genesis

One could read the creation story in Genesis as similar to evolution in that it starts with simple life and over time proceeds to more complex life. Few do, I guess, but one could.

When all scientific findings about the Earth and the cosmos contradict your religion, but you're 100% committed to your religion, what choice is left but to conclude that all of science is just one big conspiracy against your religion in particular?

It would take the strength to abandon literalism and fundamentalism, which, for those embedded in that ideology, is frankly terrifying.

It's tempting to imagine it will sort itself out somehow, because the alternative is tedious, grueling argument. The sort where you must remain polite and restrain yourself from laughing at or insulting these people, otherwise they only dig in their heels further.

Yes, actual communication, especially with those who hold views you find outlandish, is quite difficult.

Cheers on the recent posts.

One could read the creation story in Genesis as similar to evolution in that it starts with simple life and over time proceeds to more complex life. Few do, I guess, but one could.

I wrote an article addressing that exact argument.

It would take the strength to abandon literalism and fundamentalism, which, for those embedded in that ideology, is frankly terrifying.

I suppose. The way I see it, moderates are actually more dishonest in that they attribute modern scientific knowledge to the authors of scripture by way of some seriously questionable exegesis. Muslims do the same with the Qur'an.

Yes, actual communication, especially with those who hold views you find outlandish, is quite difficult.

I don't see any alternative though. This is one of those situations which brokers no solution except hard work.

I suppose. The way I see it, moderates are actually more dishonest in that they attribute modern scientific knowledge to the authors of scripture by way of some seriously questionable exegesis.

Perhaps part of what is important about a shift in the thinking that would permit Genesis to be metaphorical, even if you didn't think that it necessarily was an account of evolution, is simply the move against a rigidity of thinking about the texts. If Genesis might be understood in such a way, then other understandings about scripture are likely also more fluid.

To put it another way, such interpretive readings of the sacred texts seem appropriate given the knowledge (and how we view knowledge) of our time. I am not really sure another way to read scripture and still maintain any connection to it. That is, if it must be read literally and unquestioningly, there isn't much room for it in my life. I don't think it would be possible for me to understand the world in that way anymore.

Also, it had never occurred to me that the authors understood modern science, even if it were read as a kind of evolutionary tale, I don't think that means they needed to have understood that. I had never heard that before.

If Genesis might be understood in such a way, then other understandings about scripture are likely also more fluid.

This benefits somebody whose goal is to salvage Christianity. My goal is to destroy it.

To put it another way, such interpretive readings of the sacred texts seem appropriate given the knowledge (and how we view knowledge) of our time.

Appropriate in what way, relative to what goal?

Also, it had never occurred to me that the authors understood modern science, even if it were read as a kind of evolutionary tale, I don't think that means they needed to have understood that. I had never heard that before.

That would be necessary in order for Genesis to be a metaphorical description of evolution, as you suggested earlier.

I hope you don't read hostility into this. I am challenging you, but as someone who routinely appreciates the comments you leave.

This benefits somebody whose goal is to salvage Christianity. My goal is to destroy it.

You are correct. I do wish to salvage it, perhaps only for selfish reasons. I think that there can be room in the world for non-fundamentalist religious thought and that we would collectively benefit from that kind of a shift. I do think that religious experience has something to offer, something that would be lost in the extinction of Christianity or other religions. Religious experience has wounded me pretty deeply, but it also has saved my life, so I seek some kind of middle ground.

Appropriate in what way, relative to what goal?

My meaning here was simply that those types of readings are valid given how we understand knowledge in our time. Readers are forced to construct meaning from the text--they don't really have a choice but to impose modern understandings onto the text, even if they attempt to understand the text as closely to the original meaning as possible. I think that, largely, this is how we read in our present time, how we construct knowledge, so if one interprets the story in Genesis in that way, they are applying a way of thinking that is consistent with this time (rather than the time that the text was created in), even if there are problems with the argument (as you pointed out in your link the article you wrote on the subject). I am not sure to what ends except that the reader is tasked with creating meaning, and they do so by adapting an evolutionary argument and applying that to scripture. I think that's okay. I'm not sure of another way except to completely abandon the thinking/religion, which I'm not sure is necessary or good.

That would be necessary in order for Genesis to be a metaphorical description of evolution, as you suggested earlier.

My understanding is more like my statement above--the reader is trying to understand the text during their time, and the story allows (though problematically) for that kind of interpretation in our time (as opposed to when it was written). I think that one can read it that way, even if it wouldn't be considered the best interpretation of the work.

Anyway, hopefully these responses are mostly clear. I have enjoyed your work and comments so far. No worries about tone. It didn't seem hostile.

Very thoughtful. I like you. We flat out disagree on the desirability of preserving Abrahamic religions, (though I severely doubt they are actually possible to destroy) but you've at least given me a better understanding of your thoughts on the matter. Improved mutual understanding is as worthy a goal for discussion as resolving whatever's being discussed one way or the other.