Here's another video whereas the person lays pretty much the same thing out but in a more concise manner easier to understand and stay on track of what's being said.
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Interesting video and the first time I've really looked at/listened to anything related to the virus minus high school students going nuts over it in class and watching on their phones the spread.
Perhaps, most interesting to me is why the latency factor? Why, or to what end were they engineering it in the first place? In my mind, based on the copy/paste there is absolutely no way that it wasn't engineered (for any who question that aspect).
The video makes this a bit more confusing if you ask me. It's very easy to splice a gene, take a section and copy and paste in, I for one created a glowing e-coli in a basic community college genetics class years ago, so I am confused by his somewhat positive belief that part was engineered and that the possibility of this "folding" was just a chance mistake? Yes, perhaps, but likely not with as much time has passed since beginning to play with these things. Sounds to me like they've been working on this particular project for some time and maybe their Frankenstein did work better than they thought and got out of hand, but still they were messing with the HIV antigens which we know attack the immune system and lower white blood cell count for a reason. As I'm typing, I'm thinking this latency factor may have just been a carry-over related to the way the HIV virus operates and not necessarily what was wanted in the creation of a Super virus?
And, as far as coming from bat SARS, etc. for the general masses, this matters next to nil, but how to fight it does, so I suppose good to narrow in on how it effects that organism?
Your personal experience with bioengineering should inform you as to how quickly a highly funded effort might undertake to engineer such a virus. While the Wuhan BSL-4 lab has spent some time developing proficiency with Bat Coronavirus, only last year were certain pathogens illegally provided to that lab by spies from Canada.
"Perhaps, most interesting to me is why the latency factor? Why, or to what end were they engineering it in the first place?"
Dr. Cottrell speculates that researchers were seeking to develop a vaccine, and sought to increase the latency in hosts to facilitate that development process. Having more time for their early attempts to have an effect would improve their ability to measure small improvements, I believe.
However, it's also true that such latency increases the potential virulence of a bioweapon.
Estimates of the R0 (how many new infections each host spreads the virus to) of the nCoV range between 4 - 10, all of which are horribly catastrophic, and are generally due to the latency, since shedding occurs during latency, which means it's infectious while hosts show no symptoms.
Dr. Cottrell discusses the difference between splicing things in and taking advantage of the mutations that happen naturally. He finds it likely that the non-contiguous insertions that preserve the polarity of the expressed proteins improving their affinity to host cells were the result of the latter, rather than the former, due to the extreme complexity of protein folding and the subtle affects on cellular uptake.
The first evidence I noted that the nCoV pathogen was bioengineered was that it was based on bat coronavirus, which was a competency of the Wuhan BSL-4 lab. The extant understanding of the nCoV pathogen excludes it being a zoonotic virus. It likely has never infected a bat in the wild.
However, every bit of understanding we have of it's exact nature better enables us to devise vaccines, and treat it in people. Knowing it's etymology will better enable us to prevent such pathogens from causing human suffering in the future. This is particularly true because this virus is almost certainly a lab created pathogen. The political mechanisms that allowed this pathogen to be created and released are something wholly under the control of human beings, whether that release was accidental or not, and should we fail to rationally prevent this from ever happening again, we will be basically committing suicide as a species.
Your response hits the mark in a more comprehensive and succinct manner than the video.
With latency I get that Dr. Cottrell was speculating that researchers were seeking to develop a vaccine, but if lab developed in the first place why bother? Why and for what purpose do you and/or Dr. Cottrell believe the virus was engineered for? As a bioweapon? And, if so they needed a vaccine for those they want to save/protect?
Sorry if I'm coming across as dim here.
Never even occurred to me that there would be a signature so to speak for original developers based on competencies! The first evidence I noted that the nCoV pathogen was bioengineered was that it was based on bat coronavirus, which was a competency of the Wuhan BSL-4 lab.
All of this gets into strange territory when it comes to a regular joe or sally trying to determine what might be a life saving vaccine and what might be a killer. I'm sure I'll come off as a bit batty, but I've been very wary of the great socialization in regards to flu shots as of late. Just pull into any grocery or pharmacy across US and there are free ones being offered (multiple signs) and a great press from general public to do it. I've wondered many times about this push/mentality in a greedy society which gives less to those most in need, yet pushes for free inoculation for all and how once that is set it's a great way to cull the masses in a resource crunch.
First, asking questions you don't know the answer to is not a sign of being dim. It's the only possible sign of intelligence.
I haven't heard Dr. Cottrell speculate on the purpose of such research, and I haven't speculated either. To be blunt, I don't know why. It is obvious that such research could lead to biological weapons, however, and it is impossible to exclude that motivation. It is perhaps less obvious that vaccine development for potential novel zoonotic virii might be furthered by this research, but that is also a reason to do it. Research just to find out stuff we don't know is also done all the time, and could also be a specific impetus in this matter.
Regarding flu vaccines, I see your intelligence showing. While I have been researching the coronavirus outbreak, I came across information regarding influenza I did not expect at all. I don't have a link handy (I didn't save one because I didn't expect to face this issue) but I recall this: hundreds of thousands of samples from people that have been diagnosed with the flu have been taken and submitted to relevant authorities (presumably the CDC or similar). Of those samples 16% turned out to be the flu.
That means that 84% of diagnoses of influenza are not actually the flu at all. That also means that even if the vaccine on offer in a given year perfectly matches the outbreak of influenza that erupts, it will only potentially be of use in 16% of the cases diagnosed as the flu. This was both unexpected and startling to me, as I thought doctors had a far better track record of diagnosing the flu.
I should add that I only heard this in passing, and have not made any attempt to verify it at all. Given the provenance of this claim, I think you should definitely verify it before you make any health care decisions based on it. I do not seek vaccination for the flu, because I don't get the flu as a rule. I also was told by someone just this last week that their wife got the flu vaccine this year and immediately became ill with the flu, while they did not.
The fact is that most people do not understand that vaccination is not risk free, and that party reveals that risk is real and substantive. Certainly what is diagnosed as flu is blamed for causing ~400k deaths a year. However, if the diagnoses are only right a fraction of the time, most of those deaths aren't caused by the flu at all. It is likely that vaccinations also have a death rate, and since I don't get the flu, I'm better off not being vaccinated either, because I avoid that risk as well.
I do not recommend following my lead. I recommend doing careful and substantial research into everything I have discussed here, and more as well, and making up your mind based on what you find out.
I don't and won't be getting the flu shot. Also, I don't find the 16% info unbelievable at all and not too interested in doing loads of research on the matter as I usually go with my gut. I'm into poetics and dreams and all of the symbols and approaching like a waking dream, paired with a social studies background, I watch the trends and this solid push, like an amped up sales pitch, now even free, has a reason. Most likely something to do with big money &/or control and I don't so easily drink the kool-aid.
It's hard to even wrap my head around the amount of money involved. I heard an estimate that the 2003 SARS outbreak was worth ~$50 Billion. This one will involve a lot more money than that.
Vaccines are more nefarious than most (even anti-vaxers) realize. and unfortunately most will never know what for.
However the flu shot may be the evidence one needs to measure the general level of intelligence of the world....
It's difficult to even grasp limits on the possible nefarious uses of vaccines by bad actors. I am not persuaded by the drumbeat of propaganda funded by Big pharma on the enemedia to convince us they are benign.
I know too much about the legal and political mechanisms they have successfully lobbied to achieve, as well as the incessant corruption and graft regulating agencies and agents are availed. Still, the most telling evidence of their malevolence is the data regarding vaccine injuries inflicted on civilians from which they profit. Measles deaths are outnumbered by more than two orders of magnitude - over 100 to 1 - by measles vaccine deaths, in recent decades.
Just wrapping my head around the reality of the vaccine industry's self promotion as the saviour of kids from virulent disease while causing orders of magnitude more harm to kids than the diseases they vilify, for nothing more important or valuable than money, literally makes me dizzy with cognitive dissonance.
It's hard to grasp such unrepentant and diabolical evil. They're literally serial mass murderers of innocent children for nothing more than profit. They don't even seek the sadistic pleasure of hurting them or raping them first.
They are just after the money, and dead kids are a cash crop.
This is what I meant. I do not think for even a moment they are about 'profit'. This is Dysgenics. A 'lesser' race has been created. "The most people".
Multi-Generational Dysgenics.
Regarding measles, yes, just one scam of the whole lot. Polio vax was even more of a scam. They put DDT in everything back then. In your farm animals, in our 'milk', in our air, in our everything.......Then blamed the effects on "Polio", and had a magic cure vaccine at the same time as the DDT stopped.........
It's a no brainer, when you look at the fact that vaccines did absolutely nothing to curb diseases. The Measles was already a joke disease, and almost all mortality was gone, before the vaccine was released to make sure that it didn't go away.
Here's another video whereas the person lays pretty much the same thing out but in a more concise manner easier to understand and stay on track of what's being said.
Watching now.
Thanks!
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Interesting video and the first time I've really looked at/listened to anything related to the virus minus high school students going nuts over it in class and watching on their phones the spread.
Perhaps, most interesting to me is why the latency factor? Why, or to what end were they engineering it in the first place? In my mind, based on the copy/paste there is absolutely no way that it wasn't engineered (for any who question that aspect).
The video makes this a bit more confusing if you ask me. It's very easy to splice a gene, take a section and copy and paste in, I for one created a glowing e-coli in a basic community college genetics class years ago, so I am confused by his somewhat positive belief that part was engineered and that the possibility of this "folding" was just a chance mistake? Yes, perhaps, but likely not with as much time has passed since beginning to play with these things. Sounds to me like they've been working on this particular project for some time and maybe their Frankenstein did work better than they thought and got out of hand, but still they were messing with the HIV antigens which we know attack the immune system and lower white blood cell count for a reason. As I'm typing, I'm thinking this latency factor may have just been a carry-over related to the way the HIV virus operates and not necessarily what was wanted in the creation of a Super virus?
And, as far as coming from bat SARS, etc. for the general masses, this matters next to nil, but how to fight it does, so I suppose good to narrow in on how it effects that organism?
Your personal experience with bioengineering should inform you as to how quickly a highly funded effort might undertake to engineer such a virus. While the Wuhan BSL-4 lab has spent some time developing proficiency with Bat Coronavirus, only last year were certain pathogens illegally provided to that lab by spies from Canada.
Dr. Cottrell speculates that researchers were seeking to develop a vaccine, and sought to increase the latency in hosts to facilitate that development process. Having more time for their early attempts to have an effect would improve their ability to measure small improvements, I believe.
However, it's also true that such latency increases the potential virulence of a bioweapon.
Estimates of the R0 (how many new infections each host spreads the virus to) of the nCoV range between 4 - 10, all of which are horribly catastrophic, and are generally due to the latency, since shedding occurs during latency, which means it's infectious while hosts show no symptoms.
Dr. Cottrell discusses the difference between splicing things in and taking advantage of the mutations that happen naturally. He finds it likely that the non-contiguous insertions that preserve the polarity of the expressed proteins improving their affinity to host cells were the result of the latter, rather than the former, due to the extreme complexity of protein folding and the subtle affects on cellular uptake.
The first evidence I noted that the nCoV pathogen was bioengineered was that it was based on bat coronavirus, which was a competency of the Wuhan BSL-4 lab. The extant understanding of the nCoV pathogen excludes it being a zoonotic virus. It likely has never infected a bat in the wild.
However, every bit of understanding we have of it's exact nature better enables us to devise vaccines, and treat it in people. Knowing it's etymology will better enable us to prevent such pathogens from causing human suffering in the future. This is particularly true because this virus is almost certainly a lab created pathogen. The political mechanisms that allowed this pathogen to be created and released are something wholly under the control of human beings, whether that release was accidental or not, and should we fail to rationally prevent this from ever happening again, we will be basically committing suicide as a species.
Thanks!
Your response hits the mark in a more comprehensive and succinct manner than the video.
With latency I get that Dr. Cottrell was speculating that researchers were seeking to develop a vaccine, but if lab developed in the first place why bother? Why and for what purpose do you and/or Dr. Cottrell believe the virus was engineered for? As a bioweapon? And, if so they needed a vaccine for those they want to save/protect?
Sorry if I'm coming across as dim here.
Never even occurred to me that there would be a signature so to speak for original developers based on competencies!
The first evidence I noted that the nCoV pathogen was bioengineered was that it was based on bat coronavirus, which was a competency of the Wuhan BSL-4 lab.
All of this gets into strange territory when it comes to a regular joe or sally trying to determine what might be a life saving vaccine and what might be a killer. I'm sure I'll come off as a bit batty, but I've been very wary of the great socialization in regards to flu shots as of late. Just pull into any grocery or pharmacy across US and there are free ones being offered (multiple signs) and a great press from general public to do it. I've wondered many times about this push/mentality in a greedy society which gives less to those most in need, yet pushes for free inoculation for all and how once that is set it's a great way to cull the masses in a resource crunch.
First, asking questions you don't know the answer to is not a sign of being dim. It's the only possible sign of intelligence.
I haven't heard Dr. Cottrell speculate on the purpose of such research, and I haven't speculated either. To be blunt, I don't know why. It is obvious that such research could lead to biological weapons, however, and it is impossible to exclude that motivation. It is perhaps less obvious that vaccine development for potential novel zoonotic virii might be furthered by this research, but that is also a reason to do it. Research just to find out stuff we don't know is also done all the time, and could also be a specific impetus in this matter.
Regarding flu vaccines, I see your intelligence showing. While I have been researching the coronavirus outbreak, I came across information regarding influenza I did not expect at all. I don't have a link handy (I didn't save one because I didn't expect to face this issue) but I recall this: hundreds of thousands of samples from people that have been diagnosed with the flu have been taken and submitted to relevant authorities (presumably the CDC or similar). Of those samples 16% turned out to be the flu.
That means that 84% of diagnoses of influenza are not actually the flu at all. That also means that even if the vaccine on offer in a given year perfectly matches the outbreak of influenza that erupts, it will only potentially be of use in 16% of the cases diagnosed as the flu. This was both unexpected and startling to me, as I thought doctors had a far better track record of diagnosing the flu.
I should add that I only heard this in passing, and have not made any attempt to verify it at all. Given the provenance of this claim, I think you should definitely verify it before you make any health care decisions based on it. I do not seek vaccination for the flu, because I don't get the flu as a rule. I also was told by someone just this last week that their wife got the flu vaccine this year and immediately became ill with the flu, while they did not.
The fact is that most people do not understand that vaccination is not risk free, and that party reveals that risk is real and substantive. Certainly what is diagnosed as flu is blamed for causing ~400k deaths a year. However, if the diagnoses are only right a fraction of the time, most of those deaths aren't caused by the flu at all. It is likely that vaccinations also have a death rate, and since I don't get the flu, I'm better off not being vaccinated either, because I avoid that risk as well.
I do not recommend following my lead. I recommend doing careful and substantial research into everything I have discussed here, and more as well, and making up your mind based on what you find out.
Be well!
I don't and won't be getting the flu shot. Also, I don't find the 16% info unbelievable at all and not too interested in doing loads of research on the matter as I usually go with my gut. I'm into poetics and dreams and all of the symbols and approaching like a waking dream, paired with a social studies background, I watch the trends and this solid push, like an amped up sales pitch, now even free, has a reason. Most likely something to do with big money &/or control and I don't so easily drink the kool-aid.
It's hard to even wrap my head around the amount of money involved. I heard an estimate that the 2003 SARS outbreak was worth ~$50 Billion. This one will involve a lot more money than that.
Incredible!
Vaccines are more nefarious than most (even anti-vaxers) realize. and unfortunately most will never know what for.
However the flu shot may be the evidence one needs to measure the general level of intelligence of the world....
It's difficult to even grasp limits on the possible nefarious uses of vaccines by bad actors. I am not persuaded by the drumbeat of propaganda funded by Big pharma on the enemedia to convince us they are benign.
I know too much about the legal and political mechanisms they have successfully lobbied to achieve, as well as the incessant corruption and graft regulating agencies and agents are availed. Still, the most telling evidence of their malevolence is the data regarding vaccine injuries inflicted on civilians from which they profit. Measles deaths are outnumbered by more than two orders of magnitude - over 100 to 1 - by measles vaccine deaths, in recent decades.
Just wrapping my head around the reality of the vaccine industry's self promotion as the saviour of kids from virulent disease while causing orders of magnitude more harm to kids than the diseases they vilify, for nothing more important or valuable than money, literally makes me dizzy with cognitive dissonance.
It's hard to grasp such unrepentant and diabolical evil. They're literally serial mass murderers of innocent children for nothing more than profit. They don't even seek the sadistic pleasure of hurting them or raping them first.
They are just after the money, and dead kids are a cash crop.
Thanks!
This is what I meant. I do not think for even a moment they are about 'profit'. This is Dysgenics. A 'lesser' race has been created. "The most people".
Multi-Generational Dysgenics.
Regarding measles, yes, just one scam of the whole lot. Polio vax was even more of a scam. They put DDT in everything back then. In your farm animals, in our 'milk', in our air, in our everything.......Then blamed the effects on "Polio", and had a magic cure vaccine at the same time as the DDT stopped.........
It's a no brainer, when you look at the fact that vaccines did absolutely nothing to curb diseases. The Measles was already a joke disease, and almost all mortality was gone, before the vaccine was released to make sure that it didn't go away.