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RE: STEEM's Biggest Villian

in #contest2 years ago

Good guy, bad guy...

I'll be the first to nominate the obvious...

Haejin, with his constant self voting, scammy dstors, dcommerce, extracting Steem value to whaleshares, revenge downvoting, but all off that aside the most frustrating part is how much he sells. I would be willing to put up with the rest of it.

Anyhow, totally buying into this drama post and I'm not afraid to be the first to say it.

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And a strong nomination from the Steem Drama veteran, WU. This Could be a winner, but we'll have to defer to the wisdom of the crowd to see how it plays out.

"Good guy, bad guy...

I'll be the first to nominate the obvious...

Haejin, with his constant self voting, scammy dstors, dcommerce, extracting Steem value to whaleshares, revenge downvoting, but all off that aside the most frustrating part is how much he sells. I would be willing to put up with the rest of it.

Anyhow, totally buying into this drama post and I'm not afraid to be the first to say it."


LMFAO, how much he sells? Oh snap, I get a kick out of the downvote posse and how they get perplexed by revenge downvotes, and stake selling done by those they target. Did it ever occur to you that respecting the upvotes of large stakeholders would cause them to hodl more and sell less, effectively securing the market value of Steem? Oh and don't bring up the nobility of it by pointing to trending. Yes, trending needs to be fixed, but it doesn't need to be fixed by turning everyone into a bunch of psychopathic downvoting brownshirts.

Steem is niche AF and almost impossible to explain to the uninitiated. So how are you going to CONvince capitalists to invest when you won't let them eat their own stake? It's like a BYOB party but if you bring too much beer you'd better share with everyone else. Fucking commies. And don't even bring of PoB we know this thing has been proof of wallet from the jump. PoB was the pipe-dream and then reality happened.

I give you the #2 spot, we all know Marky is das fuhrer.


After the initial rumors about a new Steem government, I was against this centralization effort immediately. This is because I knew that it would in some way shape or form translate into new taxes. I don't know if the alliance is responsible for it. Or if they are in some part responsible for it, but after that happened, we content creators got hard fucked by another 25% tax on the fruits of our posts. In addition to the new taxes, you've got the downvote posse, because that'll make steem great? Seriously, if I wanted to destroy a blockchain social network, I would do all of these things. But keep calm, carry on, things will happen, people will post less, perhaps a blockchain will get it right some day... Or maybe the game was honked from the start.

I agree with everything you said here. Proof of Brain would require a system sort of like Minds.com has where every account is tied to a phone number that is anonymously turned into a hash and so is able to do 1 account = 1 vote.

Steem is not and never has been "proof of brain" but more proof of stake. Then, it turns around and alientates its stakers and its authors (which it already severally lacks).

Then comes free downvotes, which is a terribly stupid idea. Now every account has more power to do harm than it has to do good. In the past people had to ask themselves if it was worth it to them to take a hit in order to be a dick to someone, but no, now the dickslaps are free. We just made it so accounts can put more negativity into the environment than they can positivity, great plan...

The value of Steem, as I see it, is the immutable blogging space available to a person online. I think the more logical path for its design is to give SP a cap on all accounts, and that SP is not reclaimable. This means that for an account to have SP you are effectively burning that STEEM, or at least making something fungible into a non-fungible asset.

That way no single account could be 1000x the vote influence of another account, and owning STEEM would be more about owning decentralized "digital blog property" rather than some currency. The currency could be like potential parcels, very much similar to Mana/Land with the Decentraland project on Ethereum.

But its current roadmap makes no sense to me. Why do SMTs at all? From the standpoint of any reasonably funded project I would expect companies to fork Steem rather than make an SMT. Steem accounts are a barrier to entry and if a project wanted to create Steem-like token it makes much more sense for them to fork Steem, ninja mine like Steemit Inc. did, and use their god-like SP to generate the most amount of accounts per day just like Steemit Inc. does.

Steem is not a huge community (when counting active accounts) to tap into, so I see no incentive for serious, well-funded projects to buy a ton of STEEM to power up to make their SMT when they can fork Steem for so much less and have a much easier time onboarding users.

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I don't make the decisions I just react to them and adapt.

blah, blah, ... Taxes. that's hilarious, you can't be taxed on money you never owned.

"...you can't be taxed on money you never owned."

I submit you do not grasp the governmental mechanism: inheritance taxes. VATs. etc... Almost all taxes are on money you don't - and more to the point, never will - own.

"I don't make the decisions I just react to them and adapt.

blah, blah, ... Taxes. that's hilarious, you can't be taxed on money you never owned."

So according to your own logic then, retaliatory downvotes shouldn't be an issue?

Agreed. Downvotes are a normal part of the system. It matters a bit more when the big guys use them.

However, in general I agree.

I think they became more normalized when Steemit added in "reward disputes" as a reason to flag. They did this knowing full well that they couldn't control the abuse of the flag mechanic. So basically, they washed their hands of the problem by implementing a top-down culture change.

Besides that, changing the GUI to show the flag function as a downvote on par with upvotes was also a move to change the Steem culture. It's clear to me that they're trying to control our ethics to accommodate the inherent flaws in the platform. This isn't necessarily a good thing. If a system is broken it should be fixed, you shouldn't break the way people behave to accommodate a broken system. I mean you can try, but in the end, it won't work.

Now because of all the downvotes, it appears that Haejin is flagging people with his full steem power. He was just minding his own business before, but the system turned the people against each other and have divided and conquered. For the "greater good" of course, that's how it always starts. That is almost always the beginning of the end. Better on the blockchain than IRL I say, lets see the experiment out to its inevitable conclusion.

This place is so dumb and doomed. ;)

Everyone else is dumb...

I got it. I've heard it. I stay because of accounts like yours. :)

Moon Soon, doesn't matter about the petty.

Bahh, my FUD is so much
more classy than everyone
elses. You know you love it!

;-)