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RE: TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM AND TAG A MATE CONTEST 10 SBD GIVEAWAY, ROUND 8!!

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Maybe. But I have had fun and met new people by playing.

If this type of Post/contest is a problem, then there needs to be a public service announcement pinned somewhere so everyone knows.

Personally, I don't see how this post could be an issue, unless Steem is not ever planning on going mainstream. And is the haijin/nextgen fiasco over? how much blockchain has been wasted on that? Not to mention bad PR and the whole reward pool issue.

But you are a witness. So, I guess you would know better than us.

One witness does a report about 0.001 Steem Memo messages and how they use blockchain space. I commented to him twice, asking what kind of impact that actually made. No response. But hey, at least he gets to make a post about it and use that to pad his witness resume.

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Well now I'm afraid to play games like this one, because 1) I want minnows to have bandwidth or they will lose interest in the platform, and 2) If I piss off a Witness, I might as well go back to Farcebook rather than sit here terrified they will flag my posts into oblivion.

I was flagged for three months straight by a massive whale (and in the last 12 hours before payout so further upvotes wouldn't help). I didn't let it get me "terrified." If you're too emotionally wrapped up in the votes here, that may not be healthy. It's not witnesses that go around flagging stuff you have to be concerned with. It's all about Steem Power stake. It's mostly just whales and usually it's to prevent spam, abuse, etc. Sometimes it's just irrational and I get pretty frustrated at that also.

As to your participating in contests where you're just spamming account names to increase your chance of winning, think about how you'd feel if you got all those notifications. See my reputation post I linked to in my reply for more on that.

I actually joined this game when I saw someone else tagged me. If the game itself hadn't interested me, I would have ignored it. Pretty simple.
If you're going to fixate on a poor choice of words to summarily evaluate my emotional state, not only are you being pretty fucking presumptuous ('cause you don't know me), it seems contrary to growing this platform. What other investment do I have in it, after one week?
It's probably not Witnesses, but you are human so I can't dismiss the possibility.

You've used words like "terrified" and "being crushed." Reading the words you're using communicates an emotional state. If that state is not accurate and you don't like how it displays your actual mental state, then please use different, more accurate words instead of calling someone "fucking presumptuous" who is simply reading the words used and interpreting them.

Way to avoid any actual point I addressed.

I didn't avoid anything. I appreciate your perspective on why the game is valuable to you and why you participated. If no one was participating, it wouldn't even be worth talking about.

I like this actually. @ancapbarbie @lukestokes people been real, because they ARE, not afraid of a downvote or flag because they potentially offended someone, expressing ones view without fear or favour, this is what its about, REALLY, not about 'pleasing' everyone for the sake of an upvote, be real and true to yourself and everyone else, and you two are.. Much RESPECT and love, thank you both. Cheer$;)

then there needs to be a public service announcement pinned somewhere so everyone knows

That's not how any of this works. There isn't a central authority to dictate rules to everyone else. What we have are questions, perspectives, and opinions. I asked two questions and gave my opinion. I'm not mad or anything. I'm genuinely seeking perspectives and and various answers to my questions. I didn't say "This should be stopped" or anything like that.

I'm really happy to hear this contest has led to new friends and relationships. That's great!

As to the haijin/nextgen fiasco, that's a much deeper issue related to stake distribution and what people do with the Steem Power they have. There are no rulers here to force people to ask as they would prefer. I would prefer both of those people learn some non-violent communication and work out their differences as adults, but that's just my single preference among tens of thousands. I think a lot of blockchain resources are constantly wasted on many things, including that.

I don't necessarily know better than you because people have elected me as a witness. Anyone with database skills can query the public record however they like, not just witnesses.

As to the responsiveness of other witnesses, I can't speak on that either. Some provider super valuable functionality, programming, development, and more to the blockchain but don't reply or post much on Steemit. Stake holders with the most to lose recognize their value and give them their vote. I personally feel witnesses should be responsive (as I'm being here), but others don't spend their time that way.

Some people vote for me just because they like me, not because they think I provider more value than all the other witnesses. Ideally, we should all learn what creates value here and support witnesses who protect and grow that value.

Thanks mate @lukestokes I appreciate that answer and I see your angle. As a relative newbie (5 months in) you clearly have a greater understanding of the bigger picture here so I don't want to act or behave like I know better because I don't, but I do just feel that if this is what brings people to Steemit and gets them talking and gets them bringing new mates to interact correspond and add value, how can it be wrong? I give back currently more than I make, this is surely what it is all about, giving/uplifting/adding value to peoples lives which I truly feel this contest does?? In only 12 hours and for a rank of only 59 on this 8th contest we already have over 450 comments 800 views, I feel this to be a major achievement and I do apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused? I also would like to thank you for communicating your stance in a respectful and pleasant manner it is much appreciated and I do value your thoughts and opinions. ;)

The comments aren't very real though, right? They are mostly just noise. That, and people getting tagged with notifications which are not relevant to them is what I don't like. Others may enjoy it though. I'm just one opinion among many.

There really are tons of real/organic comments here many more than seen on many of the other posts from folks looking for a quick freebie 'nice post' 'good post' 'nice' 'thanks' etc we have seen em all, and interestingly hardly do they ever occur here (read the all above comments ;) ). Here people really do interact and contribute Luke, and I really would love for that to continue! ;) Oh and as for the people getting tagged, not one to date has yes been angry to the contrary actually :)

Yeah, it is just awkward or strange when these REAL and BIG problems are 'plaguing' steemit. And a positive resolution (stakeholder issue or not) has not been reached in over a month... But a tiny contest is nipped as if they are causing problems.

And I feel you... I spent over a month (or two) combating spam .... but it really got tiring. Most of the offenders were gaining/cheating for pennies or up to a couple dollars. But many of the big stakeholders and over half of the witnesses (as far as I could tell) were doing nothing to contribute toward steemcleaners or other efforts against spam and 'stealing from the reward pool'.

Plagiarism, upvote harvesting(through spam comments, etc), cicrcle jerks, etc are rampant on Steemit. I still contribute to steemcleaners if something blaring comes to my attention... but no one is paying me enough to fight for Steemit....if the big stakeholders themselves don't care.

So again... kinda awkward to nip at minnows when krakkens are out in the ocean doing harm.

But I am glad you are not mad. And I appreciate that you took your time to provide a reply or three.

Who nipped the contest? I just asked questions and gave my opinion.

I delegate witness rewards to multiple projects including steemcleaners. I agree, there are many "problems" (if we choose to view it that way) on Steemit related to the imbalance of Steem Power and how some with a lot of it can effectively do whatever they want without anyone else really being able to stop them. This is one (of many?) reasons Dan has publicly stated he doesn't like about what he helped create. If there were solutions we could implement that actually make sense and improve things for everyone, we would have implemented them. Until then, hopefully we'll learn useful things from SMTs and find something we can port back to STEEM.

If you have a reasonable suggestion for killing krakkens, I'm all ears. I don't know of any easy solutions.

Hi @lukestokes...

After reading through this whole thread (twice), I have to say IMO you are one of the more involved witnesses I have encountered. You could've just down voted the whole thing into oblivion, instead you took time to lay out your concerns. Thank you for your input, knowledge, and patients in some instances. I can only speak for myself but having someone advise to the potential problems with something is much appreciated - I proxy my witness vote but you would have likely earned it here.

That being said - I don't necessarily agree with some of your assertions but as I'm sure you also know (as a witness) its not really necessary to agree with someone in order to discuss it and find a solution. (my disagreement isn't really related to this contest, it's the assertion that Steemit is decentralized "DPOS", but i'll leave that for another conversation)

I was initially brought to this contest by someone tagging me and I not only liked it enough to stay, but enough to throw a couple $ at it - I never even considered the he potential for several of the issues you raised, and I will try to work with Craig to figure out a few changes. I'm sure we can figure something out where it is more focused - maybe eliminate indiscriminate tagging of people just because they are someones followers - It is called "tag a mate" after all...

As a fellow UP alum (IUP - probably a few or 20 years before you) I say thank you again...

  • As far as killing the Krakken(s) - where the hell is Perseus...

Thanks. :) I was UPENN class of 2001. I'd love to know more of your thoughts on DPOS.

I prefer Archimedes, and Trump but what do I know, just kidding doc...Cheer$;)

Lol kill krakkens with love ;)

Hey brother - sorry I missed this one... Been busy as hell the last week - work never ends lately...

Lekka my buddy no worries really appreciate you poppin in though .. see we hit number 1 this week? Missed you.. Next week again it shall be.. Cheer$;)

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