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RE: Content-Type Value and Reward Discussion

in #content7 years ago

A good analysis @krnel. As for censorship, I'm against it. Steemit on this path will be just like Facebook. Regarding the quality of the posts, we see people here with very original posts and earning pennies, while "celebrities" only copy and paste news from yahoo and earn hundreds of dollars. So I believe that whales and witnesses should have clear criteria and attention to that.

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Absolutely: "Those with the SteemPower fuel the success of content types."

But censorship is not an argument for or against something being what a community wants to support or allow. Communities censor things, no problem. Theres a big difference between behavior and information censorship.

Censorship of things in life in common place. We censor behavior. We are not talking about information here. This isn't mainstream media censoring news or inromation, or wikipedia doing the same. There is a big different between freedom of all information on a platform vs. censorship of information, and the issue at hand, of freedom of all behavior to be seen on a site vs. censorship of having it seen, or even allowing that behavior on the site. It's about where is Steemit headed. Another platform for the majority of people, based on information, or a platform for anyone who like porn, gambling and others vices that keep most people away.

porn and drug dealers didn't stop the internet. Nor, apparently, do the sick people who do sick things jump on the internet, and steem is loads more transparent.

I think you are on a crusade and if you can't handle that the tech used here might be used by bad people, I can direct you to other quite popular venues where pieces of metal are considered to be devils enchanting good people to murder.

censorship has nothing to do with actual bad things being done. If people post proof of their evil here, how is this logical? number one rule of badness is don't get caught. when people do bad things, someones rights are stolen.

Filtering controlled by you is your business. But filter for you controlled by me? You know, I really hate sexy girl selfies. Also I hate people apologising for censorship and comparing censorship to justice, and apologising for customary "crimes" like me smoking weed in my room and me not raping babies... You know that was not a radical claim only 20 years ago in public opinion. What about the muslim and jew custom of mutilating boy's private parts before they can decide?

It is very brave to set up a forum where nobody can be silenced. Your sentiments are shameful.

It's about the what the image and reputation the community wants to develop going forward and growing towards. Feed it, and it grows. Then an image sticks, even after it changes as well, if Steemit changes later.

You claiming that my sentiments are shameful, can also be said about you, trying to shame me for saying what I said. LOL. Nice try. Especially trying to fallaciously frame it as a straw man "where nobody can be silenced"...LOL. I'm not arguing for that censorship of information. I'm talking about specific behavior of content creation. Porn, and sports betting, isn't really information. Not wanting that on Steemit is not "silencing" information or people. It's saying to go make your money somewhere else.

You also can't just claim something should be part of a community, based on an alleged defense of "censorship". Then you sound like an apologist who uses censorship to defend something on the grounds of censorship. Who's shameful now? J/k. :P You sound more upset than me, because I speak out about this. Sheesh. You won't guilt trip me with BS.

Are you sure you're not confounding censorship and flagging? I've been watching the alt-Right for some time, but I've been hesitant to evangelize therein even though they're the crew that would like a censorship-resistant platform.

I'm hesitant because I assume that some of their more edgy stuff would get flagged. To be frank, I can see why the edgier stuff would be flagged. As a platform, Steemit is censorship resistant. But as a community with real people, we've got whales & such who serve as benevolent guardians (if you will.) They'll flag offensive stuff; at least, I assume they will. Hence my hesitancy.

Speaking of flags, that's a technically feasible way of implementing an NSFW-type policy. Stuff tagged "NSFW" gets assigned a new, special flag that doesn't penalize the poster but hides the post in the same way that regular flagging does. Implementing it this way provides a stick-based incentive to hew to the NSFW policy: "Sequester it on your own, or pay the penalty of a real flagging [and real downvotes for breaking the rule]."

We'll work this issue out.

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