The Ice Age-Is It Even True?

in #conspiracy7 years ago

I put it to you, that the only reason you believe in the ice age is that you were spoon fed the idea since you were old enough to understand speech. No one has ever offered a conflicting theory to the ice age. Until now.
That conflicting theory is that there never was any ice age. Further, there is no proof that an ice age ever was-all that eskers, moraines, kames and pot hole lakes prove is that there was massive water activity resulting in a sorting action of material, at some time in the history of the world.

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Photo credit- my own personal collection

Yes, that is a glacier and it's moving for obvious reasons. Gravity is pulling it downhill. What we learn in school is that there was a multi-kilometre thick ice sheet parked over most of the North American continent, and that it jiggled and wriggled so dramatically that it carved out the physical features of our continent, including valleys , plains and ridges and so on. Would gravity really move it in a horizontal direction, even though it is anchored to the landmass by the physical features of the underlying land? I doubt that the movement would be sufficient to accomplish all of the above mentioned results. It could be, but it seems farfetched to me. I'm sure there are real life examples in Greenland and Antarctica that would shed light on this, but anyway, this post is intended to start discussion about whether or not there ever was any ice age on planet earth, not the specific mechanics of a continent wide ice sheet.

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Image credit-google earth, enhanced by me

The above image is of the Niagara River Gorge, located between Lakes Erie and Ontario, on the border of the USA and Canada. I bring this up because it raises some interesting questions. The Niagara River Gorge is 11 km long, you can measure it yourself on Google Earth. The "Gorge" is the huge trench that the Niagara river has carved out for itself from the Niagara escarpment at Lewiston, to the present location of Niagara Falls proper. According to Niagara Falls Parks own website, https://www.niagaraparks.com/visit-niagara-parks/plan-your-visit/niagara-falls-geology-facts-figures/ , before recent hydro development, the actual falls has been receding upriver due to erosion at an average annual rate of 1.25 metres per year. Simple math, 11000 metres (the length of the gorge) divided by 1.25 metres equals 8800. Allegedly, the last ice age ended 12500 years ago, while 8800 years ago would place Niagara Falls at Lewiston, 11 km downstream from its current location.

Why did the last ice age end 12500 years ago, but according to some basic calculations, Niagara Falls only came into existence 8800 years ago? If it was rerouted, where is the physical evidence for that? A large river leaves huge scars on the landscape.

What does all this mean? That the Niagara River stopped flowing for thousands of years after the ice age? What about before the ice age? Did the river flow for thousands of years before and in between numerous ice ages and not erode the edge of the falls? The falls original location was at Lewiston, where the Niagara Escarpment slices across the landscape, and from there the falls moved upriver at a predictable rate, taking less than 10,000 years. Why does this not make sense? It's because we have not been told the truth.

There never was any ice age.

As an interesting aside, aboriginal oral traditions around the world that I have encountered do not mention an ice age. But they do mention a great flood event. The bible is also ominously silent about the ice age, but we all know the story of Noah's Ark. Fodder for another post.

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What's the motive for making up the Ice Age?

These kinds of ideas have been promoted by the powers that be to undermine faith in the bible and God. This effort spans generations, and all power centers of society are under their control, to push their agenda.
If they wanted the population to believe that the earth is flat, (or any other half-baked idea for that matter) they could do that with ease.

So I personally am a geology student, and gre up in a glaciated region. (NE Kansas.) I could give you elaborate technical answers to many of your objections, but I don't actually think that's the best thing I can do right now. I don't really want to have the Internet's billionth argument about science vs religion- they drive me crazy. Rather, I think it's better to say that I genuinely don't consider geology and faith incompatible. There are a large number of quite religious geologists, including one of my earlier geology teachers, who I respect quite greatly and spent many hours discussing faith and science with. There's no denying that geology has had a certainly contentious relationship with with religion in the past, and it's reasonable to also say that a fundamentalist/ literalist reading of the bible is incompatible with geology in many ways- the Flood, the age of the Earth, etc- but the specific stories have never seemed as important to me as the deeper, underlying faith and the moral messages of the bible.

As for my own faith- well, that's in short enough supply, in fair admission. That's less, however, due to me studying geology and more due to personal difficulties accepting faith as an answer in response to the cruelties of our world. It might be telling, however, that despite my lack of faith, I still keep up many of the observances and the practices of my religion. (Judaism.)

And at least as far as geologists having agendas forced on them by the powers that be- we're a quite idosyncratic bunch, and we don't tolerate outside interference of any sort in our research well, for what that's worth.

Allright, thanks for your thoughts. I was actually trying to avoid the science vs religion polarity, it just kinda drifted there with the replies, about motive. What I would like, is a civilized discussion about the ice age theory, based on facts and accurate observations of the world around us. We're off to a good start I guess. Perhaps you could offer something in the way of proof, that there was an ice age? As a geology student, you are in a good position to do so.

I could do that, yeah! Actually, I had so much material that it makes sense to do it as a post- I'll link you to it when it's done.

Good idea, I'll be sure to check it out.

Great article :)

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