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RE: I Got Flagged Three Times Yesterday. Did You?

in #community6 years ago

I've been thinking about why I do certain things here and I believe it's because I want to have in practice behaviors I will want in place when I do have more to throw around. In other words, if I want to be wealthy, I need to think first and then act like the wealthy. If I want to be generous, then I need to start now. I need to turn away from a scarcity mindset to one of abundance.

I still like the idea of merit, though, so I'm not giving up on that. I'm just establishing the baseline, is what I think I've been doing.

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I like that. I try to operate the same way. I don't have billions in the bank, but I do have more than I'll need to get groceries this week. So I give. When I have tons of money (literally tons... of silver. Ha ha) then I'll be a place where I already have the giving habits established. I can do the same here too.

I don't even pay attention to whether or not I'm getting something on my comments anymore. If I'm cranking, there's a lot of them anyway, so can't expect everyone to keep up. I'm mainly jawing with folks in our class (December-January) anyway, and none of us have enough SP to go dropping non-dust votes forever. Right now, my Voting Power won't hit 100% until 6 AM on Thursday. :)

I don't pay attention to the votes on my comments either. It's too much hassle and no payoff for it. That's why I really like dustsweeper. Then I know that if someone upvotes a comment, but it's not enough, I'll still get paid out and their vote will matter. Most newbs don't know their votes don't matter on comments, so it's nice to make their votes count.

I drop a lot of dust, but hopefully people are able to sweep it too. I don't want it to go to waste, but I don't want to leave them with nothing. Do you use dustsweeper?

No, I don't use dustsweeper. As it is, I'm not even sure why, since many people love it. I guess I just see it in the same light as steem basic income. I know it's tough for newbies, and the rest of us redfish/minnow types, but it all feels like subsidization, and it also feels like manipulation of the reward pool. I can't blame anyone for trying it. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that newbies don't have enough SP to vote over the dust threshold, or for that matter, that there be a dust threshold, except if it really is true that the computational load would put too much strain on the resources of the blockchain. That's the excuse they give for it, anyway.

With bidbots and self-votes and delegation all manipulating the reward pool in one way or another, what's a few more?

I don't really see it as a manipulation. More of a correction of the wrong that is dust. It keeps people from getting paid what they should get and it slows down minnows. You're not a minnow, but it means that I could upvote your comment, but it wouldn't do anything.

Regardless of what you choose to do with it, I'll respect your decision.

I'm wondering what they should get paid. If people put up a dust vote of $0.001, and that's all there is, how does that warrant a payout of any kind, even on the side of the author? Does the system go out farther than three decimals? If not, by the time you would do any taking away of a curation and then divvying up the SBD and the SP, what are you looking at?

I know that's not what you're talking about. You're saying dust shouldn't exist in the first place, which is kind of what I was saying about newbies barely having any voting ability at all, and none of it worth enough, especially now.

But in order to make up those dust amounts to get over a threshold if they're all by themselves, that's going to be between $0.2 and $0.03 every time. If we're talking about preferences as to where that reward dust goes, back to the reward pool or to the intended author and curator, I agree, it should go to them. I'd just rather it become a part of the system rather than another workaround that's concentrating SP if not yet, eventually, into another bot account.

At any rate, it is what it is, and I know the people who are behind it are only trying to do what they think is right. I can't fault or blame anyone for that.

You're not a minnow

I'm not? :) Did they up that to 2000 SP when I wasn't looking?

I would like the ability to choose where curation goes (i.e. keep it for myself or give it to the author)

I think any vote should be paid out. I don't know if they look past 3 decimals, but a vote is a vote and should be paid.

Dang it, I got my terminology confused. You're still a minnow. I meant red fish. Although, wouldn't that be cool if you were a dolphin? :)

I guess it would depend on what level of dolphin. A baby dolphin doesn't seem to have a whole lot of juice either, but a 35,000 to 45,000 SP dolphin seems a little more like it.

At any rate, just having double the SP I have now would be nice.

Okay, I figured it was a slip of the brain or something. I just can't resist poking fun sometimes. :)

As far as curation goes, maybe that's something that needs to be proposed. Just pay the person we want to pay.

I'm still coming to terms with how this all works. I figured the only fluctuations I was seeing on my posts (mostly down), were caused solely by the 3.5 day average price of STEEM changing, and seemingly always moving down.

But no, the reward pool also sucks some of it off to give to higher paying posts, right? I mean, I've observed something like that happening when there's not been any discernible change in STEEM price, and the talk about the self-upvote going back to the reward pool confirms that.

So, I don't know. It's a bizarre thing to me all the way around.

I agree that all votes should be paid. I just don't know how that happens on the lowest end, unless things get paid out beyond three decimals.

To get a 100% vote above the $0.03 threshold, you would need a minimum of 300 SP. I don't see that coming from Steemit Inc in the form of delegation to each newer account.

Then, you have just getting rid of the threshold, but there's supposedly a huge computational load to consider. I guess I don't know what the answer is, but dustsweeper exists, which means I can just keep posting, commenting and curating how I see fit and let everyone else do the same. Or not.

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