Eric Clopper's Presentation Sex and Circumcision - A Rebuttal

in chaosproductions •  3 months ago

Genital Mutilation is Wrong - And So is Clopper

If you think this is a contradictory statement, knowing that Clopper advocates against male circumcision, please read on. My friend and partner on mspwaves.com @r0nd0n recently pinged me this video, saying: 'You must watch this!'

Not having received a response, r0n knew, that I had not watched it - and he pinged me again last night. Today I decided to study this presentation by Eric Clopper. Throughout the two hours, I wondered why r0n would want me to watch this, but when I had seen the entire thing, it became clear to me that I needed to write a rebuttal to...

...Clopper's Harvard Hour Of Fame.

Here it is...


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Eric Cloppers Presentation

Point of Agreement - Sexual Mutilation is Wrong - Religion is Bad

I watched this presentation. I agree with Clopper on this: Genital Circumcision is wrong.

I also agree that there are evil people who advocate the male child circumcision for no apparent or for religious reasons.

Sadly, Eric Clopper fails to get to the bottom of their motivation - which would be essential to fighting these people if he were to be successful with, as Clopper termed it: ...wiping them off the face of the earth.

I also agree with the statement that religion is a bad thing.

But...

I do differentiate between religion and my living God. Even Jesus despised things done by many in the name of God under the veil of religion, a veil under which humans try to justify their action and hide from and behind God. Religion causes suffering and death. My God, however, lives. He loves us. For me, it is about a personal relationship with God.

Clapper's view:

I care not what man thinks of me. I care what I think of me.

My View:

I care not what man thinks of me. I care what God thinks of me.

Cocky Clopper

The overarching impression Eric Clopper gave me during his two hours of fame was that of some good science, much scientism, wrapped in immature cockery that did not help his case.

His speech was an expression of his rage against his earthly father, and against his Heavenly Father. He goes as far as declaring war against God - raising an army and asking people to follow him. Most disturbingly, he claims to have all the answers and: he is always right.

Right...

He talks about unforgivable sins, not understanding God:

Matthew 6:15 (KJV 1900)
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

He accuses God of slaughtering innocent women and children, even babies:

1 Samuel 15:3 (KJV 1900)
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

...not understanding that the Amuleks were not human beings. They were the Raphaem, a race of Giants, also known as the Titans, whom he (Saul) failed to exterminate. The Amuleks were the offspring of the unlawful union between the Nephilim (fallen angels) and human women. I am going into detail about these entities in my current series Angels, Demons, and the Leviathan on God Waves, Sundays from 12 Noon Central on http://mspwaves.com if you're interested in learning more. Previous broadcasts are on my blog.

Clopper has no grasp of the historical events that took place. Instead, he acts as the accuser. Who, in the bible, is the accuser?

This proves to me that Eric Clopper is without a foundational understanding of the Bible and God, lifting himself up to godhood in rage for losing some of his sexual sensory pleasures.

Clopper has got some things right and most things wrong in my view. Is it not telling that he is a believer in the satanic cult that preaches evolution? Darwinism is deeply rooted in the occult. He also appears to be a proponent of the religion of (presumably man-made) climate change, which tells me much about his quality as a scientist. He has fallen for scientism.

He made me laugh a couple of times, but for the most part, dear reader, he annoyed me with the 'cockery' about the size of his dangle. A picture of an insecure, misguided, angry, immature young man forms.

Clopper gets particularly angry and emotional when speaking of his father and of Judaism but he fails to analyze contextually why the evil people who claim medical godhood, such as criminal Freedman and his ilk do what they do.

I am no friend or follower of the practices of Judaism, especially not those of the Babylonian Talmud - but these things are a symptom of a larger problem that must be understood when standing against them.

Nice abs tho, Eric! Is that why you left your shirt off during half the presentation? Frankly, I found it embarrassing - but perhaps it is your youth, which I shall not hold against you.

Circumcision of What?

I hold the view that God never meant for children to be physically circumcised.

I may be wrong. I draw my conclusion from the Old and the New Testament. Could a casual scan of the 74 verses containing the word circumcision in the KJV lead even a non-believer to the same conclusion?

Here is the List of Circumcision Passages KJV

Circumcision is first mentioned in Gen 17:10. The term used for the object of circumcision is often: The Flesh of the Foreskin... and in the OT in many but not all cases it is referred to in relation to a child.

Flesh or Skin?

Well, what is it?

I have learned in the course of my years listening to men of God and studying Scripture that the Bible is to be taken seriously. Every '"i" is dotted and every "t" is crossed:

Matthew 5:18 (KJV 1900)
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The flesh, or the skin?

  • The flesh in the Bible refers to our carnal nature.
  • The circumcision refers to our spiritual, Godly nature - our obedience to God - that, which was in Adam and Eve before the fall.

I would argue that God never meant for any child nor man to be physically circumcised. If it was not so, would it not leave all women out of the covenant?

Pagan Is Not Godly

Clopper describes circumcision to be a Pre-Abrahamic Covenant practice, Egypt, Mayan, Aztec, etc, presumably. Why would God take a page out of the pagan practice of child sacrifice for his own people?

One would have to understand that the gods to which these sacrifices were made in Mesopotamian, Greek, Egyptian and Eastern belief systems were fallen angels and their offspring. I have not validated Clopper's claim that male circumcision was a pagan ritual predated by the Abrahamic Covenant, but if it was so, by any logic, are we really to believe God would have copied Satan?

In fact, Fallen Angels and their offspring are spellbound by our ability to progenerate, envious of the life-giving force within us. Angels can do many things; progenerate they can not. This is why the one-third of angels that left their first estate came to attack innocence with a demonic thirst after human blood, child-sacrifice, and cannibalism. This is why the Nephilim went into the human women and sired offspring (Gen 6) - to corrupt and extinguish our DNA - and God himself. Because we are made in the image/likeness of God.

The Synagogue of Satan

Let me go a step further. If Judaism and Islam practice pagan child sacrifice and attribute it to God, the plan is devious - but - as we would have it, it is biblical. Islam, which copied many of its practices from the Babylonian Talmud, has always embraced pedophilia, as do the factions of Orthodox Judaism that hold to the Babylonian Talmud. Their child sexual abuse practices are nearly identical. Would God not call out His enemies if it were so?

He does:

Revelation 2:9 (KJV 1900)
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 (KJV 1900)
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

This has nothing to do with being a Jew. It has everything to do with occult practices as commanded in the Babylonian Talmud, the Koran and the countless occult-satanic rituals from the East to the West.

Circumcision of the Heart

It is my conjecture, after considering the matter, that the call to circumcision was not a cut-off part of a male child's genitals, but a call to not to live in the flesh, but in the spirit (of God), Gal 5:16, Rom 8:9.

As a child is not of decision age at eight days, it was a call for the child to be dedicated to God in the spirit by their parents.

Not one passage of the Bible tells us about cutting off the foreskin of the penis. Instead, Deuteronomy 10:16 mentions the circumcision of the heart.. The heart is mentioned from thereon throughout the Bible. Nowhere can I find a direct reference to the sexual organ circumcision. Inferring male organ circumcision from Joshua 5:2-3 is possible if the translation is indeed knives instead of correctly sword...

Joshua 5:3 (KJV 1900)
3 And Joshua made him sharp knives, and circumcised the children of Israel at the hill of the foreskins.

The Sword is the Word of God, dear Readers. And circumcision by Prayer/promise to God to dedicate the child to God is biblical, see also 1 Samuel 1:21-28.

God clearly states that physical circumcision profits nothing if our heart is not clean. Only the conviction of the heart is relevant to salvation/the Covenant with God.

Rom 2:25-29
For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
Romans 2:26
Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Romans 2:27
And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
Romans 2:28
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Romans 2:29
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Let me close then with the word of God, which seems fitting to Eric Clopper's presentation:

Titus 1:10 (KJV 1900)
10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:


Thank you for reading.

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