in cesky •  last year

Today was in Czech republic parliament voting. There are aviable 200 seats. Every party must gain at least 5% of votes to get some seats. Parties with less votes get none seats. There is interesting paradox. Your vote can help party which you hate. I have prepared two scenarios.

Scenario 1: http://icon.cat/util/elections/HShgJRmClP
We have one Evil party and 11 good parties. Evil party will get exactly 45% of votes - 90 seats, each of good parties will get 5% of votes - 10 seats each.

Scenario 2: http://icon.cat/util/elections/rHhgfGmCTg
Same situation like in scenario 1, with one exception. One of the good parties will get one more vote. There is paradox. Ten of eleven good parties will drop bellow 5% and lost its seats. One vote agains Evil party can help it get majority 180 seats.

Cesky:
Dneska byly u nas parlamenti volby. K dispozici je 200 kresel. Kazda strana musi ziskat alespon 5% hlasu volicu, aby ziskala alespon nejaka kresla. Strany, ktere neprekroci petiprocentni hranici neziskaji zadne kreslo. Muze zde nastat zajimavy paradox. Vas hlas muze pomoci strane, kterou nesnasite. Pripravil jsem dva scenare.

Scenar 1: http://icon.cat/util/elections/HShgJRmClP
Mame zlou stranu a 11 hodnych stran. Zla strana ziska presne 45% hlasu - 90 kresel, kazda z hodnych stran ziska 5% hlasu - 10 kresel kazda.

Scenario 2: http://icon.cat/util/elections/rHhgfGmCTg
Stejna situace jako v predchozim priklade s jedinou vyjimkou. Jedna z hodnych stran ziska jedne hlas navic. Tady nastava paradox. Desest z jedenacti hodnych stran spadno pod 5% a ztrati sva kresla. Jeden hlas proti zle strane ji nakonec pomuze k zisku vetsiny 180 kresel.

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·  last year

Mno, tenhle příklad je fajn, ale je dost akademický :) Nevíš o něčem reálnějším, kde opravdu několik málo (stovek) hlasů zamávalo výsledkem?

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·  last year

Na wiki je seznam tesnych volebnich vysledku, zejmena z USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_close_election_results

Jeden hlas ma v praxi sanci volby ovlivnit jen u voleb, kde je celkovy pocet voliciu v radu tisicu. V pripade parlamentnich voleb v CR je to temer vyloucene, ta sance bude mensi nez vyhrat prvni misto ve sportce.

Ano, ten muj priklad je akademicky a z praktickeho hlediska je nepravdepodobne, ze by nastal v takovemo extremnim meritku. Nicmene umim si predstavit, ze treba u obecnich voleb kde jsou stovky volicu ten jeden hlas muze rozhodnout o tom, ze nejaka strana neprekroci petiprocentni hranici. A pokud volic ma vice oblibenych stran, ktere se nachazi na hranici volitelnosti, tak skutecne realisticky muze svym hlasem uskodit strane, kterou preferuje na ukor strany, kterou nesnasi

·  last year

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·  last year

Makes you wonder if it was designed that way... ;)

Je to v pr.. ale otazka je zda to bylo schvalne takto navrzeno...

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·  last year

Tohle cil urcite nebyl. Ale obecne kazda umela regulace prinasi slaba mista. Ta petiprocetnni hranice ma slabe misto, ktere jsem popsal. Pokud ma volic v oblibe 2 a vice stran, tak existuje pravdepobnost, ze tim, ze pujde volit sve oblibene strany poskodi, misto aby jim pomohl.