i was using literally in the non-literal sense. an open blockchain with a native token and wallet is not what cardano is about. i could literally have that up and running almost instantly, you can pay a service or use forknote and boom, blockchain and token, wallet.

that's not what cardano is about though, is it? in their roadmap, you'll see that all they have is a baseline mainnet. None of the features they are promising are finished.

That was my point, and it still stands, and I already informed my opinions.

"Byron established the baseline for Cardano in allowing users to trade and transfer Ada. Shelley is focused on ensuring that key elements are in place so that the technology grows into a fully decentralised and autonomous system. Expected Q2 2018."

so q2 2018 they will hopefully have more than a token that you can transfer.