The food we were growing on a family farm in Santa Rosa was going directly to cancer patients and people with health problems. Raw milk was at the time illegal but not if you were apart of a cow share program. In California where a lot of our produce comes from outside of Texas and mexico is controlled by monsanto. The laws dictate you use their chemicals. I can go on for days about key differences between commercialized food that aligns with the arguement of animal abuse and all these arguements against animal products. Being connected with your food source and understanding where it comes from is more important than forcing people into how they eat. Ok go vegan... But if you dont know about where your food is coming, the exemptions for pesticides in the supposed 'organic/omri' produce and how they treat food coming from other countries just to be able to cross the border you are not giving fully informed facts or solutions. What if one day you found out that the plants your eating is contaminated with chemicals/pesticides and heavy metals and toxins like arsenic. What if you found out by getting a blood test and finding out the stuff your eating is causing the toxins present in your blood... Or in my case your body doesnt asorbe iron properly from plants. Canned vegetables is not the answer. Local economies, being connected to your food source, and family farms are crucial. All I am saying is try buying food from a farm local to you that you can visit, grow your own, stop supporting big buisness and let others learn from your example instead of forcing something on them to the extent of saying buy only canned vegetables? Maybe your veggie farm is posioning your water supply with phosphates and pesticides but thats ok? I respect your decisions as vegans to make a stand but being the example and living your life as a way to inspire others is more effective than aimless attacking people with the only solution for most to buy canned vegetables? Ok its just lets focus on our food source locally and understand it better. Maybe there is arsenic in your plants and pesticides in your organic produce. Go to your food source and find out and attack the farmers inhumanely rasing animals and plants alike. America im sure is more intense with the monsanto and GMOs than most countries. I havent even touched on that aspect either. Just lets respect each others personal choices and encourge change by being the example and not conjecture with assumptions, lack of solutions, one sided arguements and hostility. Be the change dont force it on others.