Yeah you know a lot of them get that from being isolated and doing the same thing year-in and year-out and often times it's easy to have success if you genuinely care about your plants and you do stuff like putting filters on your water or feeding your worms you can kind of go a long ways just by doing that. So you know at the end of the day growing your own it's just that growing your own. What gets me is the chemical farmers who are not disposing of their runoff properly in most cases and going around toting it as an organic or natural product. Even then though on Instagram I've met some of the coolest farmers that grow chemically. And any more I appreciate people that can take such a staunch stance on stuff just not when it comes to polluting the Earth. I'm not sure you just caught me after a bowl and a shot of o h n laugh out loud