What Exactly Will Happen When busy.org Starts? Are We; Steemians; Going To Leave Steemit?
What exactly will happen when busy.org starts? Really, that question lingers on my mind. I don't know exactly or well enough what busy.org is!
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I see @ned, a fan of it though. On busy.org, he is listed as an advisor!
Overall, I see this as something amazing on his part. Steemit, seems to be open to the success of other social networks and don't see these; as rivals, I think! I see posts regarding Ethereum and Bitcoin for instance, on steemit and I don't see any frowning from steemians. I mean Mark Zuckerberg will either frown at rivals; potential rivals or buy them!
So is @ned a fan of busy? I see that busy.org is to be built around steem; so perhaps, they have his blessing?
Busy.org says it is 'complimentary to steemit'; yes it is; but mention of an interface comparable to Facebook, thus open to even non-bloggers; won't that divert the attention of especially the noobs on steemit, to it?
Or will they keep on blogging on steemit and reserve personal stuff, like pictures and status update to busy.org?
I see do foresee busy.org booming and perhaps this will help steem! It will be much easier to convince the general public to join busy.org as its interface is more social-media-like.
Overall tho, I am looking at he aftermath of busy.org on steemit: Will we all flock to Busy?
Just when steemit is beginning to take off and you know, like leave beta stage; with the advent of busy.org; will steemit ever get to take off?
Will we all flock to busy.org to leave steemit for the more crypto-advanced people? Does anyone really know?
Or is steemit and busy.org actually tied to each other, complementary like they say? Is it going to be a merge eventually?
How exactly is Busy complimentary to Steemit? Is in terms of the potential billions of people that can join busy.org, which could enhance the value of steem, since busy.org is built around the steem blockchain? Is that it?
What exactly is busy.org? Will it pay users same as steemit does? Are the principles for paying the same?
Why would steemians still stay on steemit, if busy.org accomplishes what steemit does and more or does it?
Will the drive to propagate steemit to the world still remain and why? Or will this drive instantly shift to busy.org leaving steemit forgotten?
Perhaps, I don't understand this well! I haven't seen much talk about it. I saw busy.org propagated by the amazing people of steemit and I tried to request access to its beta. I'm I, like betraying steemit this way or I'm I helping steemit and unknowingly helping steem grow?
I do want to help steemit grow!
I don't know if these questions have crossed minds of several here on steemit or not. Perhaps, they already understand the relationship between steemit and busy.org and I do not.
I am hoping some steemians share in this tiny discussion. I am hoping that these questions may touch on or voice out questions that some steemians may have held, on this!
Yes, there are many steemians that heartily support BUSY and notable of them are; @fabien, @p0o, @yamadapc, @smooth, @liondani, @busy, @furion, @steemsports, @ekitcho, @theprophet0, @furion, @sykochica, @nil1511, @good-karma, @busy.witness
(It is really admirable to find a place on the internet without much rivalry!)
I pose my questions as they have lingered and so that this aspect is clarified! Moreover, knowing what is going on, for me and several others will help the growth of busy.org when it starts as our conviction is already made right!
YOUR BOY terry
I read busy.org to help me pose my questions!
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https://busy.org/steemit/@steemitblog/the-state-of-steem-august-expansion
Time will Tell.
for now we all work in a collaborative way to build the best tool with the same blockchain called Steem :)
hmmm, a lot just said!, thank you for dropping by. the way i now see it, i think that is the answer, time will tell! as long as it is aimed at enhancing steem it requires collaboration. and @ekitcho, i dont mind being invited, i think my insight will help a bit. i may not be versed on steemit well enuf or crypto stufff so to speak but i use the internet like a 3rd world country user and really the way we use the internet and our expectation of it solves a lot and i think this genre of people constitute a large part of the internet's population. i am writing another short post that gives a glimpse into how the 3rd world country internet user sees the internet.
sure thanks for your support. Ping me on steemit.chat
says they are building a digital wallet that wouldn't incorporate fees, perhaps steemit users will be able to use that wallet to do steemit transactions? maybe that is how it's complimentary?
Steem, in general, doesn't have transaction fees. So does steemit and busy and eSteem. All of them using Steem blockchain as a backend so even though they approach design and user interface (UI) differently, they ultimately using same functions. Since, steemit is first UI, eSteem and Busy starting with complimentary features, offering different design and extra features, etc. So all users are Steem users, they can choose to use any UI they want.
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steem = batteries
busy,steemit,eSteem,steemd = toys that need steem-batteries
We want many toys, so we are making profit by selling many steem-baterries !!!
Aww, really really good explanation. No wonder! Can a noob create anything surrounding steem with limited knowledge, like apps or tools. Is there any simple way?
I wouldn't mind being both on Steemit.com and Busy.org
yep i am starting to realize that but do you think it will end up being like a merge?
I actually have thought about this and it is a possibility, I guess only time will tell.
exactly, i would think they will be like rivals but it is becoming more evident that they are together in this. time will tell tho. it does bug me a bit tho cos i feel it could reduce the drive to propagate steemit a bit, before steemit even begins. except it is like a merge
I think the wisest thing would be for both to exist on STEEM because it raises the value of the technology all together. There may not be a lot of difference in Steemit and Busy other than the looks and the legal status, there are benefits to being recognized as a non-profit, but even if it's just the looks there will be people who like one site better than the other and will only use one. If it becomes one site there isn't much of a choice, but if there are two sites or more then the investment stays within the same blockchain while appealing to a larger number of people.
how you have put it, is sheer wisdom. overall, the steem technology is improved, busy is too appeal to the masses of nongeeks.
If you look at the metrics of Steemit and its functionality - then at the proposed functionality of busy - a migration makes sense, though it would depend on the portability of things such as steem power and its value in voting terms. There will also be interest around the yours platform.
yep i do foresee that happening but the majority response i am now getting, it is evident that time will tell!
and i forgot to say thank you for leaving a comment. your feedback helped!
No worries! Not many have cottoned on to 'yours' yet - seems very techy at the moment but then so is steemit - techy/currency, anyway
are you into yours? i think 2017 has several blockchain based social networks ready to spring up. before i asked this questions, one main reason, is i didnt know if discusiing some other social network like busy for instance will get people frowning but then i started to see several steemians discussing other blockchain social network freely and i started to wonder, how come there is no, like rivalry. now i am understanding things better. it looks like they can co-exist!
Personally, I think that steemit has some fundamental issues which are being inored because the power is held way too tightly and is not being distributed in any meaningful manner. I bring these things up and get shot as the messenger! 120,000 subscribers and about 4,000 users including multiple accounts and auto-voting systems is not 'social' and it is not media when so few posts get read. They are at risk and deny it but ... hey, who am I?
do you think busy.org will fix that somehow?
Re fixing problems of functionality at busy .... they'd be pretty damned stupid not to!! There are 4 major changes I would make: 1. Sort out the stupid topic/tag system (or lack of it) 2. Have a silo function where you could grab a post or several to read later 3. Add Per-to-peer messaging 4. Add voip - punters stay on a platform because of functionality - even if they join for the rewards
AFAIK You have to go on steemit.com to create a busy account so users who know about busy will ultimately also know about steemit.
I don't really see them competing, to me busy is like facebook and steemit like reddit.
That's what you get when you have a community full of geeks, loads of app but no one to use them, in time though users will come and all these apps will be ready for them.
yep exactly, but just based on what you said, busy will defintely blossom before steemit gets started. cos steemit is the more technical one and the masses on the internet are regular people and not particularly geeky. it will be easy to invite a new person to busy. even giving them the link will complete the process!
Exactly, busy will reach a broader audience so in that sense I'd say it has more potential to go viral.
I think steemit will play an important role to bootstrap everything but will fade with time or maybe become an app on the busy app store who knows...
It's clear that all the games like steemsports should have dedicated apps, these app could be available on busy. Apparently busy will also have a built in marketplace, this will be a first for a social media site!
hmmm okay, how about the whales and bot voting system, will that adjust considering that busy has the potential of hosting real humans and novices?
I think that the developers working on the steem blockchain will face a lot of challenges in the future. Mainly regarding steem power distribution.
Bots are not inherently bad, they become a problem when they have competitive advantage over human curators. Currently they have an edge over users who curate manually, so this is a problem that will become more and more apparent and will need to be solved.
My impressions is that busy could be a site just like facebook but users who want to earn rewards will have to engage with the whole community not only their friend, because if there is no whales among their friends they will never earn anything significant. As you suggested the protocol may adapt to solve this problem if busy becomes really popular and big, but it is all experimental at this point. It's going to be a bumpy ride for sure but the potential is enormous.
thank you for dropping by too. it really helped!