How to (potentially) do a fulltime botnet right
I noticed the other day that I got an upvote from an account I hadn't seen before that had a number ending and then sometime later, another from a similar name with a different number. I am no blockchain sleuth but, this didn't take a great deal of Sherlocking to figure out and I am interested to see how it pans out over time.
Most botnets are designed to use the 15 Steem delegation (or a very small delegation amount) from Steemit to take micro curation returns. There was one I heard of sometime back that included ~7500+ accounts and was taking out large amounts over time. However, this one is a little different and I think it is going to distribute large amounts widely over time to what I suspect is a whitelist of authors instead.
It is setup by the infamous @fulltimegeek who I think I have never had any direct interaction with but have mentioned a couple of times in respect to hunting cave trolls. He is also a supporter of some of the content adjacent to where I spend some time in the deepdives tag and conspiracy areas. Going by his name, I will assume that he is going to be keeping an eye on how the bots perform and it will be interesting to see their effect.
There are 1-60 numbered bots that all have 3000 SP delegated to them and they seem to have started operating about a week ago, cruising the waters voting. That is 180,000 Steem Power which would have a total vote of ~15 dollars at 100% but, each has a profile that looks something like this:
What this means is that together, the 60 bots could potentially be distributing around 150 dollars a day / 0.25 x 10 / 2.50 each / in 600-odd votes. That is a significant amount of distribution that when I look at where the vote lands, seems to be heavily on people who consistently produce good content and, are generally long-termers.
This is something I have been hoping would happen more and more with heavily staked users to support accounts who are thinking long on Steem from a content perspective at least, if not as an investor also. It is things like this that in time could significantly help build smaller invested accounts up to become more effective distributors themselves.
Because all of the bots have started at the same time with the same delegation, it is going to be interesting to see the patterns that emerge from them and how much they are able to grow themselves too. As prices rise (as they will one day) they are going to become quite the distributive force.
Of course, this comes at an opportunity cost to @fulltimegeek as to distribute to the community means his own returns are much lower than they could potentially be so, anyone who is on or gets onto the whitelist should be grateful for the support and, not abuse it. There is already enough entitlement on this platform without expecting from and taking advantage of those who have been trying to improve the situation.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks to you, @fulltimegeek and express my interest in seeing an update at some point on how you think your project is going. I am hoping that over the coming months, there will be more content-supporting activities going on that will especially target the community-centric accounts looking to make Steem a better place for more people overall.
Taraz
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That is really cool, see there are some good apples in the bunch. I think a few weeks ago we were talking about the whales and their intentions, and the future of steem, and I was pointing out there are some good people here, good whales, and here is one. I think I may have even cited him when I made my point.
Anyways, glad to see you are getting his support, and even more glad to see that as you have called for, some whales are seeing the value in building community, and growing good content through incentivizing quality posts.
Thanks @fulltimegeek
There are some good whales, I know a few. I just wonder if it is better to be a little more vocal and hands on.
I don't know @fulltimegeek personally, although I have seen the name referenced extensively in various curation contexts as "one of the few 'good' whales," because he evidently has never wavered from the ideal of Steemit as a repository of information "of value." Without checking, I'm pretty sure he also delegates generously to a bunch of curation/community building initiatives.
Anyway, what you're describing here seems like a pretty direct support of the idea that we need to build a larger "middle class" here.
The idea of distributing the SP across 60 accounts makes sense to me from the perspective that each individual vote will be small enough that it isn't going to set the recipient into paroxysms of "hunt the mighty whale vote." Pretty clever, really.
I think enough of this and it will have a significant effect on the place as well as perhaps lift spirits of some of those who are waning.
And yes, it is clever.
I'm done, even experimental bots has 10x more SP than me after 6 months.
Someone please teach this lazy guy how to use bidbots.
Lol. He has been here a long time and I think he bought in.
I'd like to see the math on how much less that might be. Since he's having bots spread the votes to a whitelist, unless we check, for all we know, he might actually be making more in curation rewards, spread out among all the accounts. If you are careful with a whitelist, they are statistically more likely to get high upvotes likely.
He could also delegate 180,000 to bidbots and get close to a 100% return
Yeah, and I could become a loan shark and get amazing returns with only a few broken legs.
I haven't come across any on my posts yet lol. First time I have heard of this and makes sense helping distribute rewards to long term users. hopefully we will see more of this as there is only a small percentage of the so called 1 million users voting on other peoples posts.
It is the equivalent of 60 good sized minnows suddenly becoming active. Hopefully it catches on.
That is very good news. I look forward to a visit from them.Received a bot vote tonight from the austroboost which is a bot for the Austrian community.
Am I the only one who sees it like he created an account with an ability to set the vote weight range to 1% - 1000% for total of 180k SP.
And actually he could use it to get those tiny little bit curation rewards from redfishes like me as well.
they only vote at 100 from what I have seen and, only on a whitelist. Sure, he could do lots of things with them, the difference is he likely won't. Thy also vote really late it seems so as not to take away curation from those who are curating early which means, he spreads more, takes less.
then the guy deserves a medal.
This is the first I have heard of @fulltimegeek or even botnets. I seem to learn a lot from you. I just followed @fulltimegeek and I'm gonna go check him out now. Thx
Well you know I don't have a great technical understanding of the platform, but any help is good help right? Community distribution will only create more involvement, but also providing it really is spread around and not just concentrated in certain areas.