ah you have your discussion going :). congrats.
has endlessly happened here of course already from both sides but nice to see a courteous debate.

I only wish to drop this pdf concerning Rockefellers and ExxonMobil.
https://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/cf-noaction/14a-8/2009/nevarockefeller032309-14a8.pdf

have a good time!