Can we please move the !bookkeeping stats offchain?

in #blog5 years ago (edited)


Look, i love the ability to see my Steem Monsters/Drug Wars ROI so easily. Imo, its a great tool. I used to keep my own record manually before "bookkeeping" but i was nowhere as precise, so when this tool came along i was super happy with it.

And kudos to its creator @holger80.

But the tool has a problem. Because its so useful, folks keep on calling up the tool constantly and flooding up comment sections.

When i use the tool i try and call it up in one of my old payed out posts. Problem is that many people just dont care and spam any post related to the game they are pulling up the stats for.
I could use MUTE on "bookkeeping" but that would stop me from using it.
Theres another thing as well....

Do we really want to fill up the chain with information like this? Theres literally hundreds of calls per post. Take a look at the @drugwars posts and you will see that almost half the comments are from bookkeeping.

What i propose is that you move bookkeeping from STEEM offchain.

@holger80 ill ping you again. Could you go talk to guys like @steemchiller, @dragosroua, @penguinpablo and move the tool to "Steem World","Steem Supply" or "Steem Now", if thats possible, and shut down the service onchain? Or maybe build a front end yourself.

I just think its a bad idea letting this go on.
Thats all.....



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It is not my intention to spam the steem blockchain. The problem is that I'm a good python dev that has not a clue about frontend and JS coding.

Creating the bookkeeping bot is a much simpler task than creating a front end..

Give me some more time and I will work on a front end solution.

I do like to read the comments and it hasn't disturbed me so far. Especially if it is happening under related posts.

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The problem is that I'm a good python dev that has not a clue about frontend and JS coding.

I assumed that devs have different talents which is why i tried pinging some of the other guys.

Great!
Looking forward to it. :)

Unrelated question. Are there any resources on using Python to interact with the STEEM blockchain. Learning some basics for doing SDN, but wouldn't mind branching out in that direction too!

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You can use my beem library to interact with steem https://github.com/holgern/beem

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Thanks. Will check it out!

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Off chain tool should also be simpler since you would not need to sign transactions to report data. If your code returns json then you could easily use vuejs to have two way binding and populate a frontend. So if someone types their name checks the service they want info on you just return the json load and loop over the object since the server already does the structuring for you.

Dear @holger80

You're a good python dev. Im great with social media. Perhaps we could get to know each other closer as I believe people like us may find many ways to collaborate.

You know how to create great products, I know how to promote them online. And we both want Steemit to grow :)

Will surely follow you closely
Yours
Piotr

The same thing could be said about people spamming @tipu profit and sbi shares.

Well sure, i still think those are no where as bad as Bookkeeping. I say move it all. Dont see a reason why all these things couldnt fit on a site like Steem World.

Tipu has now a own webpage,where you can See everything about your invest. So it's not necessary to make a comment,just visit

https://tipu.online

And Connect via steemconnect. Any key is not required, just give your account name and thats it.

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The on-chain feature should probably be disabled then.

Yep, that should be done.

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Dear @lordbutterfly

I just read latest post by @bluerobo and he recommended your publication. Interesting choice of topic.

@holger80 has really inteteresing challenge ahead. His tool (I never used it myself) does seem to be "abused" and all those comments do look like a spam.

I just think its a bad idea letting this go on.

Agree with you.

Yours
Piotr

Great to see such a quick response from holger and as tempted as I am to leave a bookkeeping comment in your comments I will resist. ;)

Haha. Lets not go that route. Lol.

Ahm, there is no problem, only in the mind of people.
Im also use the bookkeeping service... on my own, 5-6 day old comments, where its not a spam. I write the command as reply to my own old comments. Easy, and doesnt need anything, just a little thinking.

Of course, i know, thinking is very, very hard, this is the reason, why dont like it most of the people.

So true

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If Drug Wars created their own ROI feature on their site it might help a little.

But what about Drug Wars' battle sharing? Tens of thousands of useless posts just for Drug Wars users to occasionally receive an upvote. I think Drug Wars themselves are the problem - they now need the beneficiary rewards from these posts to keep the daily rewards pot as high as possible.

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"Useless, not useless".. im not trying to discuss the drug wars posts. Thats a seperate topic.
This is concerning the bookkeeping tool that covers not only drug wars but steem monsters and magic dice as well.
This tool has actual value and im not saying that it should be removed, rather moved somewhere else.

I was simply stating that there's other things that flood the Steem Blockchain far more than Bookkeeping does - I completely agree with you that if it could get moved elsewhere it should, but it does have far more value than other things.

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