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RE: Swallow that goddamn pill and be unhappy, will you?..... comedyopenmic 21 (2nd)
at around 4:30 in this video you can see the dust being blasted away
what's funny is the alternative conspiracy theory has the American government having a whole secret space program complete with moon bases and such on the dark side of the moon.
...classic psy op for distraction, maybe?
they have some whistleblowers of their own ;)
https://www.exopolitics.org/whistleblowers-claims-he-served-17-years-at-secret-mars-military-base/
I have watched every episode of Ancient Aliens at least once and my conclusion is that the whole argument is premised on a belief that ancient people must have been totally stupid and we are much smarter and so if we can't figure out how they did something then it must have been the work or ancient aliens or ancient alien technology. This same sort of premise seems to be a basis for the fake moon landing theories as well. It's like really hard so therefor it must have been fake. I think all the cool shit that the ancients built is simply evidence that they were just as smart as we are now, human beings are smart and if they put their minds to it they can do things that are incredible. Reading through Goddard's proposal what we really need to do is get the discovery channel or Elon Musk or Steemit.com or someone else to finance a project to build his moon rocket to period specifications and make a visible explosion on the moon. Being able to look at it through your own telescope would satisfy you wouldn't it?
oh I agree humans are smart - I also think government use propaganda non stop..
yeah but they also do some things, consider all the crazy shit we have as a result of the space program, we use it every day. Don't you think the Russians would have called bullshit in a second if they faked it?
They had tons of spies, they were spying on Goddard back in the day, had a spy in his office.
Not in the slightest. I have no doubt we can take unmanned bombs there..
but it would be fun to do in a backyard moon mission reality TV show fashion, have you ever been to the Kennedy Space Center or Air and Space Museum in DC?
I saw an Atlas 5 launch and it was impressive as hell, it can lift about 10,000 kilograms to LEO, a Saturn 5 can lift 140,000 kg that high.
If we can send an unmanned bomb there using pre 1920 technology why can't we strap a man to it by the late 60s?
Any of the effects can be created - ultimately we are still relying on 'their word', no data...
I stopped relying on the establishments word a long time ago.
Why is this different?
Personally, I don't think we have even sussed the van allen belts.
(I'm no scientist , only looking at things)
Check out the astronauts statement.... 5.45
you wanted a picture and you got a video, from what they were saying there was quite a bit of dust when Apollo 16 landed, that might be something to look at as well.
I happened to be off the coast of Florida when they launched an Atlas 5 last year, that shit will make a believer out of you. Plus I an very near where Goddard invented and tested the first liquid fueled and multi stage rockets and invented solar power and ion drive propulsion. All before ww2. All of the space suits both historically and now are made a few miles from where I am sitting. I grew up in a town where one of the few claims to fame was that the rope factory made the recovery ropes for the space capsules.
Those astronauts and the scientist are correct we no longer build or have any working Saturn 5 rockets, we haven't built one since the 70s and we don't have any ability to manufacture one right now. They are correct that no current space vehicle can leave low Earth orbit, that's not an admission that we have never had that capability.
Consider this as why we never went back to the moon, von Braun, who designed the Saturn 5 got cancer in 1973, how are you going to get that shit done without a certified Nazi cracking the whip?
....You believe that?... that we somehow 'lost' the ability?
Seriously?
yeah, we lost the ability to spend the amount of money it would require. And if we did it again we couldn't use sextants and the computing power of a Timex watch, they would want all kinds of modern shit, and then there would be like environmental impact studies and diversity training, sending more white men to the moon would be considered incredibly racist, there would be marches in the street.
Elon is working on a heavy lift vehicle right now, so there you go, he says it will be ready by 2022 so it should be ready by 2025 at least. It requires the building of specialized facilities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFR_(rocket)
BFR (rocket)
BFR is a privately funded next-generation reusable launch vehicle and spacecraft system developed by SpaceX. It was announced by Elon Musk in September 2017.
The overall space vehicle architecture includes both launch vehicles and spacecraft that are intended to completely replace all of SpaceX's existing space hardware by the early 2020s as well as ground infrastructure for rapid launch and relaunch, and zero-gravity propellant transfer technology to be deployed in low Earth orbit (LEO). The large payload to Earth orbit of up to 150,000 kg (330,000 lb) makes BFR a super heavy-lift launch vehicle.
Manufacture of the first upper stage/spacecraft prototype began by March 2018, and the ship is projected to begin testing in early 2019.The BFR system is planned to replace the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launch vehicles, as well as the Dragon spacecraft, initially aiming at the Earth-orbit launch market, but explicitly adding substantial capability to support long-duration spaceflight in the cislunar and Mars mission environments.