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RE: CO2nsensus? - A Response To @kennyskitchen and @elamental

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" It makes me wonder if the CO2 angle has been deliberately exploited to create unnecessary disagreements and schisms amongst greenies who might otherwise have been natural allies."

This is something I believe the government is using on many fronts, and is exactly the same situation with flat Earthers (I actually had one of them call us "globe-heads lol). Many of the flat Earthers I have come across seems to be aligned with my values in every other way, and are otherwise conscious, rationally minded individuals. I will admit that when I come across flat Earthers of this type, I question whether or not I want to involve myself with them, despite how much else we may have in common. This is a great point, and could possibly apply here as well... provided your disagreement is correct. I personally cannot say for sure, and really I do not think any of us can yet,but you make compelling points for how CO2 may actually still be a pollutant. Discourse about this will hopefully lead us to the real truth of this matter.

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I can't believe there are sincere flat earthers who sincerely believe the earth is flat.
I think it's at least partly just committed cryptic comedians, trolling everybody.
It's possible (not likely) that there are corporate, statist elements using flat earth to troll truthers and free thinkers and (more importantly) to absorb them in pointless discussions, thereby wasting their time.

I think if anybody actually buys flat earth theory, they're in an extreme minority of an already pretty extreme minority.

I've only ever met one flat earther IRL, who seemed harmless and nice enough.

I wouldn't invite him round for tea though... :/

There are many flat Earthers on Steemit, many of them are great Steemians too... you know... minus the fact that they think people can fall off the edge of the earth.... or think that it goes on forever.

Sure. I don't have a problem with flat earthers. Like I said, the only one I've met IRL was a nice bloke.
I just don't really want to waste any of my time and energy on it.
Because personally, I think it's bollocks.
I could be wrong but I don't think I am.
And there we go, I've already managed to waste a couple of minutes thinking and writing about it!
:s

HAHA! Nice, yea I agree. Its cool if people want to think that, as long as they also respect my view of the Earth being almost spherical... but I still want to see video of the edge of the earth to back up their theory though lol.

Hi Ann, and welcome! You're an awesome writer, and clearly have an awesome heart as well!
I'd like to very gently, kindly and with absolute respect suggest patience and allowance of flat earthers. Kenny has chosen to stand aside from this one, as it tends to be used to divide us, and it indeed is, and I agree with his sentiments. However, without formally choosing one camp or the other, I think it worthy of investigation. I'm not currently in the FE camp, but when the bulk of rather weak evidence (probably planted) is brushed aside, there are several bits of (anti-heliocentric) evidence I find quite compelling. Just as importantly, if not more, as we've been lied to about virtually everything, why would the nature of the planet we live upon be necessarily treated any differently, particularly when the benefits to the control structure (of the concept of a virtually limitless number of habitable planets created randomly by some chemical big bang strongly suggest that all, including ourselves are random, created by accident, finite, unimportant little whelps whose one-shot-only lives are largely meaningless), are utterly immense? And our meaningless little selves had best listen carefully to those much smarter whom are in control for good reason, lest our little lives be made miserable (or even lost) for our lack of common sense and wisdom.
The benefits of this scenario to a minuscule power structure bent upon continued domination over an entire planet can be breathtaking. So do I think it's flat? I don't know. What I do know is that I can find a plethora of reasons for known liars to have lied about this one as well.
I take no exception whatsoever to your dismissal of FE'ers, with respect I'd just like to see more folks such as yourself look a little deeper, as I currently am.
Why so much hot air from me about something that barely registers within your article? Sorry, it's because I'm in the process of writing my very first article as a member of Earth Tribe about this very subject. Not so much about the specifics of the shape of our world, more about why it's important, in the event we've been lied to yet again. We all know the winners write the history, so why would they treat the geography any differently, especially when it promises to perpetuate their structure? A lie of this magnitude would arguably be the biggest of all, which is why I feel it's worthy of discussion and investigation. If proven to be the case, it'll completely unravel the entire body of lies, top to bottom.
There may possibly be very important reasons that anyone approaching Antarctica without official government business (or on a controlled 'tour') is sternly warned away by military vessels from any of dozens of the world's military forces, as part of the Antarctic "Treaty".
In love, peace, appreciation and respect,
and in welcoming you warmly and sincerely,
-Logan

Hi Logan.

Sincere thanks for your kind words and for welcoming me so warmly.

Respectfully though, flat earthers don't need my permission (or allowance) to do their thing. Personally, I investigated the 'theory' quite thoroughly as a small child using elementary scientific rigour and was able to deduce even then that it was just a pointless weirdy bollocks idea.

Humanity has infinitely more pressing concerns at the moment, (the collapsing everything and so on).

I don't want to waste any more precious time which I don't have and won't get back on something which interests me not in the slightest. So, respectfully and politely I reject your calls for me to 'allow' and 'be patient' with flat earthers.

Any future correspondence on this 'idea' (such as it is) will be graciously ignored. Do feel free to get in touch with me about pretty much anything else though.

Kind regards.

Ann
annnarkehmedia.com

Understood and acknowledged.
In respect and friendship,
-Logan

Cheers.
Respect and friendship backatcha.

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