RE: luke-stokes Just Became a Lifetime BitShares Member
@lukestokes This article does not seem to have drawn as many comments as your other articles, yet it has a similar number of upvotes to some of your more commented posts.
As with all articles, there are some very short comments here, and a few questions which are answered in the blog. This leaves me with the impression that some of the people commenting have not read the blog, or just given it a fairly cursory glance.
I don’t know, but is there a financial motive to comment “awesome post”, or something short like that?
Another thing struck me:
134 votes (including my own)
104 unique page views (including 2 of my own from different I P addresses)
14 comments, of which only a couple are meaningful.
It doesn’t feel right. The ratios sound wrong. More votes than views? So few meaningful posts compared to to so many views? It feels like the real involved humans are overwhelmed by the bots.
The solution must somehow lie in the money distribution algo.
No, your confusion is valid. Most of the successful authors here are supported by bots (myself included) and those bots are controlled by humans. For example, I use https://steemvoter.com/ with about 65 rules in place right now. Many are for friends of mine who created accounts but haven't posted yet. The idea is, if they do post (even if I don't see it), they will get rewarded. I also support authors I think do a consistently good job and provide valuable content to Steemit. I want to incentivize them to continue doing so while also earning curation rewards for myself. The theory being, more valuable content on Steemit raises the value of the site for everyone here, so those who have invested in Steem Power should regularly vote for good authors who are adding good content.
The people who comment "awesome post"... well, I don't know why they do it. Some of them are bots. Some of them are not very intelligent people. Some of them don't have much experience with online communication. And some are playing a numbers game, commenting as often as they can in hopes someone will give them an upvote. Others even go back to their old "Good job!" comments and self-vote them up to take more of the rewards pool for themselves without getting noticed (since they will do it days later).
Steemit isn't designed to be fair in the equality sense. It's more like a lottery. The rewards curve has changed to be linear, so this less true than it once was, but some aspects of who gets rewarded and who doesn't still apply. I posted about that here, but you can probably get more from just reading the white paper directly.
Hmmmm. I haven’t explored bots yet. I’ll make a memo to myself to look at steemvoter.com.
Another thing which is puzzling is how some spammers have such high scores. For example, look at this obvious fraud spammer. I flagged one of his comments. I guess the usual warning in this case is not worth the effort. Yet despite the obvious evil intentions, nobody else flagged him, and he has a high-ish score of 41.
please allow me to add to that issue of flagging. as for me i guess you should reach out to the person and ask him why he keeps repeating the same thing and tell him it can be considered spamming and if he goes on you will need to flag him.
then you would have given him the chance to explain and at the same time put him through because not everybody knows this thing.
And a question i want to ask is would you have upvoted it if it was somethimg else.
A lady flagged one of my post saying i stole somebody's work. Well i used a little help and i did not know i was supposed to reference it. It was a mistake and as a matter of fact i was a novice then. To me i felt bad. Not because she flagged me but because one she did not warn me or try to put me through and 2, she would have just passed by without upvoting if there was nothing wrong with the post. i Messaged her on chat and told her it was a good thing she did what she did. She was trying to keep the community clean. but i asked her why she did not upvote other post that she was sure were mine. she only gave an excuse. As human beings we have different opinions and i respect your opinion but at the same time i think i can share mine too. As for me i think flagging should come after warning and it should be done in a way that it will not be seen as an act of wickedness. If someone that jhas been upvoting me suddenly flag me because i made a mistake i will be glad about it and have it in mind that he just wants me to be better. But if someone like you that i have never heard from before i will not be happy about it at all.
if the guy is a spammer, he deserves some punishment but you need to be sure before you dish out the punishment and dont do it because you have the ability to do it. Do it because it is the right thing to do. Are you upvoting original works or you are just going around flagging people because of your sp. like @surpassinggoogle said
What do you think will happen if you flagged him unjustly?
I respect the community and its rules so i uphold originality. You can check my wall to confirm that. Thank you for being a good steemian
steem on
I am not saying i am justified with all i have said but i just shared my opinion
Hi ewuso. I totally agree with everything said. Especially sending a warning before downvoting or flagging. I usually do the warning in even fairly blatant cases. However once in a blue moon it goes beyond spam. It’s spam and almost certainly “scam”. If it’s spam only then it’s a warning. If it’s spam that smells like ‘scam”, then it’s more serious.
The following is the typical text of one of my warnings:
“Munawar1235: This comment is for your benefit so you don't find others downvoting or flagging you.
Please help keep Steemit free of spam posts.
If you like a post, it is generally sufficient to upvote it unless you want to join in the debate.
In this case you did not even upvote the post.
Short comments like “awesome”, “nice post” “amazing post” or “really helpful” are generally not seen as part of the debate on the topic ,and if repeated across multiple posts, may be interpreted as spam.
Downvotes or flags can lower your reputation, can result in the removal of rewards, and may result in your posts not being seen by others.‘
yeah thank yhu for this. Together we can make steemit greater.
keep steeming
The reputation score is far from perfect. Maybe that person really has "an important issue to discuss". You could connect with them in Discord to find out, if you really want to. :)
It must be really really important for him to tell everyone.
I’d better take some bitcoin with me, just in case it’s about some mix-up over a Nigerian contract and funds which could come my way in return for a small fee. Always best to check these things out. What’s a few bitcoins of fee compared to the millions I get in return?
By the way, did you hear about the Nigerian who died? They found $28 billion of cash in his appartment. It seems he had been trying to give it away for years, but nobody would answer his emails.
hoe come you know so much about Nigeria?
Voting is easier then writing a thoughtful comment.
Since most people don't deplete their voting power.
A 70+ member is always a good bet.