You are viewing a single comment's thread from:

RE: Who will pay the "interest" on HERO?

in #bitshares7 years ago

Thanks for the analysis.

The HERO has a well defined price as a function of time, but I agree you may have to pay a premium to get one. There are many such examples, like what you might have to pay for a bond as interest rates fluctuate.

Nevertheless, everyone can see the reference price and decide if they want to pay the asking price premium. The market will set this value based on its perceived worth, but the market doesn't change the promised smart contract terms.

In the end, the HERO is an attempt to sweeten the deal just enough for ordinary savers to get them to try out digital currencies for the first time. Clearly the other benefits we all know and love have not been resonating with the general public. But this just might.

The only difference for the issuer is whether she thinks BTS will appreciate more than 2.5% annually. This is a small hurdle added to the bigger question of whether BTS will appreciate at all.

If you are a whale contemplating issuing a substantial number of HEROs over an extended period of time, your own buying pressure ought to answer that question until the business you are bootstrapping generates enough earnings to make further growth self-sustaining.

We provide options. We shall see if they become popular or not.

Sort:  

We provide options. We shall see if they become popular or not.

Well, first you'll see if they work or not. ;) Don't get me wrong - I'm actually very excited to see what the effective rate of return ends up being for HERO. However, I also think the bitshares echo chamber has lost a lot of people a lot of money over the past several years. Maybe someone will read this and realize that there is nothing to prevent the market price of HERO from being considerably higher than the price feed. The feed price is only a lower bound on the market price.

A whale, I'd hope, would study the smartcoin mechanism carefully enough to understand this.

By the way, here's a smartcoin technical question: suppose HERO is trading at 2x the price feed. If someone makes the mistake of asking for a force-settlement, they'll only get half of the market rate, right? And the short position that is closed will get to close their short position at half price?

That's exactly what should happen.
The HERO is a fungible smart contract that guarantees you can cash out for a pile of BitShares at the well defined price feed. If you paid more for that you did so at your own risk.

This factor alone will keep the 2x scenario from happening. Its sort of like the limits the FDIC places on how much they are willing to promise to insure.

We'll need to make sure the HERO web site explains the risks and nuances to clearly to all buyers.

No different really than paying more than a dollar to get a dollar at a loan shark emporium. If you do that, you are not altering the value of the dollar you are paying a premium you find worthwhile.

This factor alone will keep the 2x scenario from happening. Its sort of like the limits the FDIC places on how much they are willing to promise to insure.

Probably, but not necessarily! You don't know a price until you smash a demand curve against a supply curve. If there is enough demand for 2.5% returns (on the HERO demand side), then 2x is consistent with that. It's probably unlikely, because that far from the feed, it would probably be pretty volatile and 2.5% returns with big price swings are probably not that valuable. But who knows? There are a lot of "probablys."

No different really than paying more than a dollar to get a dollar at a loan shark emporium.

I don't think that's a good analogy, or at least there's a sliding scale that it's missing. If HERO had a totally stable price at 2x the feed, it would be worth buying for anyone who wants 2.5% returns. Rational people would never settle, and shorters who tried to drive the price lower would be selling into stiff demand and wouldn't profit. Of course - the 2x number is just "for instance," and the more I think about it the more I think it's way too high. But 1.4x? Seems believable. This is part of why I'm so intrigued by HERO; it's going to be such a cool experiment.

Am I wrong or are my missing something. Currently prices for the buy orders for hero are all lower than the feed price. Maybe you areb anticipating a demand surge that will cause a price hike to double its feed price because am not seeing it. That is actually my worry asides five percent APR. I hope the PR guys make inroads into people to generate demand or we will be left with excess supply of the Hero exerting a downward pressure on the price. So i keep wondering why you are so sure its gonna sell at a premium.

If you hold a HERO, you can "request settlement," which means you give up the HERO and get paid an equivalent number of BTS (measured by the feed price). So even if many many people borrow HERO into existence, the excess supply can't push the price below the feed price because people would buy the low-price tokens and settle them for a profit.

There is extremely high demand below the price feed because the network enforces the price feed as a floor.

We'll see about the premium. The token still doesn't have much liquidity, so it's hard to judge yet.

Coin Marketplace

STEEM 0.19
TRX 0.14
JST 0.029
BTC 63782.14
ETH 3146.14
USDT 1.00
SBD 2.55