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RE: Bitshares adverts on Facebook. Flash fundraiser.

in #bitshares8 years ago

@jonnybitcoin, Steem funds are meant to be spent on anything that contributes to the value of the Steem platform. Therefore, would you consider adding to the BitShares banner a message saying something like this:

This ad is sponsored (or has been brought to you) by Steem (or Steemit.com)

Otherwise I feel a bit uneasy about your efforts. I'm aware that you are a great supporter of BitShares and have done a lot to promote it (including spending your own private funds). As a BitShares shareholder, I really appreciate this.

However using Steem funds (which belong to Steem shareholders) to explicitly support an unrelated platform - well, this does not sound too good for me, unless Steem is clearly mentioned as the source of funding.

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No sorry. Steem shareholders have chosen to upvote this which clearly states what the funds will be spent on.
Why not create a similar post to mine to try and raise funds for steem ads on fb?

I don't think there's any reason to call this "abuse".

For me, this is an abuse of Steem's social contract. Would you feel the same if funds were raised in this way to sponsor Ethereum or Dash banners just because some whales are Ethereum/Dash shareholders?

A more detailed explanation of my stance is here.

I'm sad you don't understand that. People upvoting you does not mean it's a right thing to do.

I think you are abusing Steem this way. I would not object if it was a charity but BitShares is a commercial project and you are sucking funds from Steem to fund it. And I say it as a BitShares shareholder.

I was trying to be polite and I'm really disappointed by your response. You are hurting Steem's public image. The only thing left for me to do is to flag your post as an attempt to abuse the platform.

Sure, I am also a very old BitShares fan and I feel it is in order (IMO).
Moreover there are many other post on Steemit to raise money for something and that is just fine.
Steem is not just blockchain "Twitter+Facebook" It is a vehicle for fundrising.

It is a vehicle for fundraising.

According to the whitepaper, it's not meant to be a vehicle for fundraising for just anything you want. Fundraising can take place only if it brings some value to Steem. It's very subjective but this case is quite clear - there is no value, or the value is even negative, as it hurts Steem's image.

Actually there are already "upvote me" charity post. That is something that could have been expected. Maybe not welcomed, but I wonder if it hurts Steem ´s image.

I upvoted this post because I know and I trust you, but I totally understand @innuendo.

Whitepaper says:

Like Bitcoin, all work must be done prior-to payout and nothing should be paid
speculatively on the promise to do work in the future.

On forum, BunkerChain Labs describe what could be a better aproach.

The post was very poor quality and didn't meet any criteria as far as content goes. It literally just was a call to give you money on a promise.
If you put some kind of effort into actually making a case that detailed how that advertising would be done.. show the prepared campaigns that are ready to go with screenshots.. and what the end goal might be, then it would have been more compelling to support.
I think a little more effort would have yielded better results.

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