Theory about Bitconnect and how they can keep paying out investors ongoing...very interesting!

in #bitconnect7 years ago (edited)

So I talk about Bitconnect a bit on Steemit for 2 reasons, one I have some money invested in it so I have a vested interest. And the second reason is because I enjoy Bitcoin and investing albeit in very risky schemes sometimes!

As you may know, Bitconnect talk about their trading bot which may or may not be true. It is indeed possible they could be using our BTC to trade on the exchanges of course.

I found another theory online and it goes something like this:

During the BCC launch, the owners/developers did a pre-mine of 4,800,000 coins. We don't know how many were kept and how many were sold but lets assume they kept around half of them so 2 million BCC.

As BCC is a POS (Proof of Stake) crypto, it means that just by having coins sitting in your wallet your would earn interest. Quite a lot as it turns out if you had them staked way back when launched around 10 months ago.

That would mean their 2 million coins would be something like 3.5 million coins now which is worth around $700 MILLION!!!

So when you invest in Bitconnect, you invest in BCC which increases the BCC price but you are paid out in USD which you then need to buy BCC with and then convert to BTC.

That means the value of the BCC will continue to rise but the owners of Bitconnect are only paying out in USD which means no matter how many more people sign up (or don't sign up) they have enough funds to keep paying out for years to come!

And as long as BCC keeps increasing like it is now, they will continue to increase their holdings while paying out the crazy rates of interest of around 1%.

Insane but also quite ingenious really.

So, I say let a bit of BTC ride and enjoy the ride at the same time. I have no regrets if I lose my investment because for me it's a bit of a hobby really.

Just be careful and do not continually re-invest please. I am here to help you be sensible. If you want to sign up you need to ask for my referral link as I dont go around spamming my link anymore. I dont like it how people expect investors to use their link then pocket all the money.

I will only give you my referral link if you ask and then I will also give you back 100% of the commission I get from your investment. After all, it's your money not mine!

The following screenshot was from my investment in the first few days, i've bumped it up to $2000 now and that's where it's going to stay for now!!

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I agree, bitconnect revolves around the fact that they have artificially inserted the bcc coin into the process, which they control (due to premine).

This allows them to accumulate btc (that you pay them) and they pay you in dollars, which need to be converted to bcc before withdrawal. They then take fees on top etc.

There are numerous videos on YouTube showing that if you invest $10,100 and continually reinvest, at 1% daily interest you would have approx $1 trillion within 5 years!! This is clearly not sustainable and it’s only a matter of time before it collapses. It’s interesting to think about how long it will continue to run!

Is there a cap to the amount able to be lended that we know of? The guaranteed interest rate charts appear to allow for up to 100k max per lend, but not sure if there's a total cap to it. If not, I think there arguably should be to just curb such unrealistic ridiculousness. I mean, even if you cap at something like 1M, I'd be happy with my 12.5K per day lol

I don't believe there is a cap on lending, it's just the bonus interest and capital release times dont change after $100K. I've seen a few people on YouTube with over $250K invested in total. Crazy stuff

I'll bite...so IF I sign up under you and i invest say 0.5BTC (around $250) you'd give me back what, $20 or so?
And then how long will it take before I break even? What happens if Bitconnect take the money and run next week?
A lot of questions!
Oh and how will I get my money from you? How do I know you'll send it????

Hi Cryptomyballs, I would get 7% from your investment which works out to be $17.50 which I would send you back as Bitcoin. At current interest rates and with the 7% I give back to you, it would take around 90 days to get your money back.
You can ask mawit07 on Steemit, I actually (silly enough) made a deal where I paid him like 0.01BTC just to sign up to Bitconnect and not even make an investment! That was when I first started. Anyway, he signed up and invested. He writes some great articles too so I suggest you follow him!

Thanks for the questions and good luck with crypto and Bitconnect if you decide to invest! I'm here to help make sure you don't invest too much!

How long it takes is heavily dependent on the price of btc. I made a small investment over 100 days ago and despite bitconnect stating I have been paid out more than my initial dollar investment, I have received less than 50% of the original btc back.

If btc continues to go up, bitconnect will continue to pay but it will be harder and harder to make a profit (measured in btc). If btc crashes it should be much easier, however it is unclear if bitconnect would survive a prolonged downturn in btc prices.

Yes that is an issue, if BTC keeps going up then it does take longer to recoup the actual BTC invested as opposed to the actual dollars invested. If BTC were to keep going down then I think it would still be able to run as BCC would likely still go up if investors kept investing.

ok so unless bitcoin like doubles in the next 90 days then i should still make a good return on my investment. I'm sure bitcoin will continue a steady rise but it's not going to hit $10K for probably another year atleast

Well it depends on how you look at it. If you already own BTC and were sending it to Bitconnect, then you can only lose if BTC increases more than the interest payouts you receive from BCC. If you are buying BTC with fiat specifically to invest in BCC then you're gains at the end of the capital investment will be better in a way because the money you used to buy the BTC would ordinarily have been sitting idle in your bank account earning almost no interest. But with BCC, you are now earning daily interest.

This is all on the basis of course that BCC will continue over the coming weeks and months which, for the time being I think will easily continue into 2018.

Great article, thanks for your honesty... I wish Bitconnect were as transparent - like you said they must be 'insane but also quite ingenious'! Do you think the scheme will collapse before the SEC or another regulatory body closes them down?

Thanks, I am happy for people to invest in things like Bitconnect as long as they are aware of the risks involved. I think it is very difficult for the SEC or any other Government body to shut down sites like this as they dont have the authority and probably wont have the authority for some time to come. I believe Bitconnect can and will continue to run as it is for many more months.

Cool theory, I'd very much like to think it's true just cause I have a meager amount invested on it as well. If I lose it, no worse than an normal trip to the casino

To clarify on the above though, would this theory kind of mean that the volatility bot they mention doesn't do or need to do much in reality? In my head I always think back to a trader betting against the VIX (S&P Volatility index) but I think crypto has enough ups and downs that BTC itself could out swing the VIX.

With that said, I haven't charted it or anything, but just from daily viewing of coinmarket cap, BCC and BTC very much tend to move together. Can't help but wonder if they could hedge by doing something like shorting BTC with some of the investment to return funds whether BCC increases or BTC falls, or is this a strictly - as long as BCC is on this crazy steady upward trend, we're all good.

Hi, I think the trading bot is more likely to not exist however trading bots do exist and people do use them. It is entirely possible they have their own that does work but if they do I assume they would keep it somewhat secret so the whole world doesn't know.

I too haven't exactly looked at BCC vs BTC however it seems to me that BCC is on a steady increase regardless of BTC as more and more people are buying up BCC to invest. WHile this is occuring I think the BCC price will continue to rise against BTC.

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