Why does everybody think that the Intrinsic value of a Bitcoin equals the cost to mine it???

in #bitcoin6 years ago

Once again I stumbled upon a shitty Forbes article:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2017/12/09/seven-lies-bitcoin-fans-tell-themselves-and-anyone-else-who-will-listen/amp/

But also Max Keiser, an icon under the Bitcoin holders mentioned this in a discussion with Peter Schiff at the Nexus conference.

In this discussion one can agree with 90% what Max Keiser said here... but the thing about that Bitcoin could not fall under a 1000 USD because of the Mining costs is really not true.

The Mining costs are a function of price, if Bitcoin would fall for example to a 100 USD, the mining costs would tumble as well below this, as Miners would not want to loose money in the medium term at least.

So yes, mining costs could be a 1.000.000 USD per coin or 20 bucks... It all depends on the price.

The intrinsic value of bitcoin is its utility, and bitcoin's design is so that the mining costs always will tend to the profit that can be expected while mining it. The higher the cost of mining, the more secure the network is, the lower the cost of mining the less secure.

The Mining of Gold versus Bitcoin

Gold has all its mining costs upfront, while Bitcoin needs mining forever in order to be functional. If mining stops in Bitcoinland everything is been lost, as nobody is able to transact anymore in Bitcoin, so there is no utility anymore.

The Mining of Bitcoin's PoW vs PoS "Mining"

The horrible efficiency of the consensus mechanism I am sure will be a problem in the future. For now Bitcoin Mining costs are only as high as Denmark consumes. But if the price goes higher mining costs will rise accordingly.

I estimate that if the long term price of a Bitcoin would be around 20.000 USD, the electricity costs for 1 Transaction could rise to 1400 USD/Transaction. Users pay for this by buying new coins/inflation.

If the inflation through halvings goes away the price would have to be paid by the users directly through commissions on their transactions. OR: The electricity consuming would have to be lower and so the network would be less secure.

What happens in the next few years if electronic cars become mandatory and the electricity costs go through the roof?

France and Britain will ban all cars which are not electric by 2040. So the demand for electricity will be 4 times as high as now... Will it be really a good idea to run bitcoin like this in the future? In Germany they are talking about banning non-electric cars by 2030... In this case really a lot of nuclear power plants would have to be built everywhere, which takes time as well...

So take for granted: electricity prices will go up quite a lot...

What is your opinion? Let me know below!

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This is something of good article in terms of search for renewable source and pollution free especially no to greenhouse gases and u put the article in a beautiful manner...

thanks

Thank you very much shivohum!

Thank you for giving more details from here @mexbit. I respect a decision of ban all cars which are not electric. Its being save our nature. But more demand for electricity. Then want to do more supply.
Up-Voted & Re-Steemed.

Thanks for resteeming! Mandatory cars have the disadvantage that they leave nuclear waste... should be at least voluntary and without subsidies....

Great post and good writing.i like your post and upvoted & resteem

Thanks for resteeming!

You are welcome my friend @mexbit, I have a new post, do not forget to visit ya, let me add the spirit in steemit.
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Excellent post and great Nexus conference video.
Thank you sir
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Thanks for resteeming!

Thanks for the information.
For your post propagation.
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Thanks for resteeming!

I am realy not quite sure what happens then and i'd like to know :)

We will see soon... at the most I guess 2 years... right now I think it is being hyped and everybody and their grandmothers start investing... The good thing is that although these technical noobs (bankers) put all their money in the oldest most outdated version of this technology, they are giving money those earlier bitcoin holders, which are too intelligent to stay or invest in a house or something... These guys use the new money to invest it in the future... I wonder why they do not put more money in Steem already... I think that they think that Facebook users are too dumb and lazy to switch to Steem... Sometimes I wonder if they are right...

nice my friend

Wow....such a amazing post with wonderful ideas by @maxbit
I'm realy like and respect to your ideas...
Electric cars graw day by day like btc...bcz...electric cars very harmful to our nature...
Cheers~~~

btc is now more of an investment thing no use of transacting it for exchange of things and the mining is increasing the consumption

Yeah... it seems that Bitcoin now only is for investing in investing... For transactions it is not usable anymore... but people do not transact in them anymore... they hold them only on exchanges and hope that the exchanges do not disappear... How long will it take until people understand that Steem or POS in general is much better for transacting.. Here the transactions are free, although not pseudoanonimous....

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