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I'm going to directly disagree with @kooshikoo here, and say:

Government issued basic income is a nightmare situation.

It would be far too easy for a government to manipulate its citizens if it was the one providing their livelihood, and not only that, but with the world as it actually is, it's very obvious that this is an absurd thing for you to even want.

You know what I mean, @kooshikoo. =p

I'm currently finishing up an essay called "Ethics and Morality of Basic Income."

I'll be publishing it later today.

Although it's not directly on the topic of government/private basic income, it should still hopefully explain some things.

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It would be far too easy for a government to manipulate its citizens

How exactly?
We live in the Age of Information... the fourth estate is dead.

And btw... debunking Stuff and Criticizing Ideas is easy...
How about you come up with better Solutions for the 50% Jobloss that will hit us by 2030?
And the resulting poverty / Old-age poverty in retirement.

Perhaps write a essay about that ;)

Basic Universal Income is the only Way (imho) to prevent a second French Revolution.
And its perhaps a Bridge toward a Society that one day can manage without Money.

Thats my big Vision... Currency is just a Illusion anyway.

The Way is see it...
If the Government dont come up with Solutions and do so soon...
The People will come up with Solutions and render the Governments even more obsolet.

Just take FIAT Currency and Crytocurrency for example.
Crytocurrency can't be corrupted and it's out of the Governments reach.

Yes, I think that people will come up with solutions, or perhaps already have.

Do you think the US government finds it easier to manipulate seniors on Social Security? It seems to me the exact opposite is true. Seniors are a powerful voting bloc who gets what they want. Why? Because they vote in large numbers. They are engaged citizens.

Next look at Alaska. Everyone there gets a check from the state every year. Does this mean Alaska finds it easier to manipulate them? No. Again, they vote in larger numbers, especially when anything involving their dividend is on the ballot.

I've written about this before and will republish it here on Steem at some point since I imagine such an opinion is more common around these parts.

As for basic income and morality. Have you ever heard the saying, "First comes food, then morality?" We all have basic needs. It's really hard for someone with an empty stomach to focus on anything else other than filling their stomach in any way possible. This means crime.

Want to reduce crime? Introduce basic income. In Namibia where UBI was tested for over a year, crime went down over 40%. Illegal hunting went down 95%. Think about those numbers.

I also suggest going all the way back to when we invented the idea of land ownership, and consider how moral that was to rope off what was once accessible by everyone, and providing nothing in return other than the force required to keep people off that land.

Consider the two of us getting stranded on an island. What if I called dibs on that island, and claimed ownership over everything? What if I then said that if you work for me, and do my bidding, I will allow you access to the food and water you need to live?

How moral is that?

What if instead, I called dibs on the same island, but in return gave you sufficient access to what you needed to live without conditions? If I did that, I could no longer force you to do my bidding. You could tell me to fuck off. You could also choose to do work for me in exchange for my giving you partial ownership of the island. Basically, we'd be on more equal footing.

Can you see how important it is morally, for you to at all times have sufficient access unconditionally to what you need to meet your basic needs? Is it not immoral for me to prevent you from what you need to live?

Basic income prevents people from being prevented access to the means to their own existence. It is absolutely the moral thing to do, and it's completely fucked up that we've gone and built an entire civilization around people being forced to do the bidding of those who up and called dibs on the land, in exchange for life.

Perhaps you misunderstand me.

Basic income is fine.

It is basic income that is stolen from people that is wrong.

It is wrong to steal.
It is wrong to give stolen money to people.

Basic income must be by-the-people-for-the-people, and it cannot involve government.

Have you ever heard of cryptocurrency before?

It's a type of money that anyone can create. If you design it properly, it could allow for basic income.
It could be complicated, but it would allow for voluntary participation.

Its funny how you argue with "Stealing" and accept on
the other hand that Taxes and interest is exactly that ;-)

US ~650 Billion spend on Military alone (per Year).
Would you say this is Tax Money well spend? ;-)

We could have a Base on Moon and Mars by now...
But we rather put our Energy in petty Wars.

I'm completely anti-taxation.

Interest, if agreed upon, is fair.

Private business deals are up to the individual.
Coercion and forcing a person to do business with you, or simply taking their money, is unethical, according to my moral code.

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