If not by state, then by church.

Even if the government is eliminated, who will the next authority be?

Who will be the next to rule over us, and ensure our oppression and obedience, while lying to us and stealing our money?

Of course, we already know. Whoever calls themselves a god, or claims to speak for a god.

That would be the most powerful, popular religions: Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, and any others that attempt to gain power and influence over society.

When it comes to state or religion, I say both institutions must burn.

The Christian Europeans took over all of South America, Latin America, and North America, and utterly converted or genocided every single group of people already living there, back in those early days of colonialism.

Tyranny.

Requerimiento.

They beheaded the leader of Inca, just for being a leader there. Murder.

Can we blame this on people?

Or on a god? Of course we don't blame a god.

God simply doesn't exist. The entire thing is made up to control people, embellished by the church, but invented by mad traveling prophets of the ancient desert.

A panopticon god with a list of rules. Always watching, always judging, to ensure obedience, even when you're alone.

A pyramid scheme structure to the church, and with a singular master who makes all the rules, can do magic, and is never wrong. Yahweh, who plays the role of the wise king that you must obey, lest you suffer.

Utter fabrications.

Of course most of the morals are decent. On the surface, it does make sense. If you agree with not murdering people, not stealing from them, and not raping people, then you already believe in a lot of what most religions say.

And what most non-religious people think too. These morals are natural to humans. The only ones murdering are desperate people, or those driven by religious or political fervor. War.

But then it gets monstrous.

What allowed the Christian Nazis to justify holocausting the Jews in the 1940's? Simple.

Christians aren't allowed to freely trade money for profit. But the Jews could.

Currency exchange for profit is a thing Jesus cracked a whip over, right? I know the stories, and respect them, yet, many of us are currency traders and investors here, so we understand the feeling of making money, while others do the coding, the working, and the labor.

Profit without hard-work. Of course they might change the story to say "No trading in church," but the moral only makes sense if you say "Profit without work is wrong."

Martin Luther, the founder of Protestantism, and Luthernism, wrote a book titled this: "On the Jews, and their lies." Von den Jüden und iren Lügen. Do you think that could be part of it?

When (most) of the morals are good, and there's a happy end for believers, but a very bad end for those who don't believe or obey, the viral aspect is revealed.

It leads believers to convert others, not with proof or evidence, but with cult mythology instead. Fear of hell for their friends and neighbors would cause a Christian to try to convert others, to save them.

I still remember the huge creationist debates that happened years ago. Of course that got pounded into the ground, but oh how they tried to usurp knowledge, and brainwash the children with cult mythology, portrayed as if it was true. It's lessened, so that religion doesn't seem so obviously made up and untrue, yet, that's what it was. What changed? Less mythology?

The only direction which makes sense with that trend is this: The less religious belief you have, and the less mythology you believe, the closer you are towards something true.

Yet even today, who among us was in a church before they reached age 18? Who was being taught religion as if it was true while a child? I was. I know the mythology. I know the prayers. I know the feeling of faith, and I'd never want any of it back after what I've learned from my heretical studies, attempting to study the same documents that priests would read to learn how to be a ruler of a church, and brainwash the surrounding community.

Anyone who doesn't believe and go to church was shunned, and called evil, not because they are evil, but because it would dismantle the faith. Heretics and disbelievers would be burned to death. Not because they are evil, but because they are a threat to authority, be it political or religious.

Things are different now, I suppose, yet, were you in a church as a child? Instead of growing up going to church, if you had only nature to look at, would you believe in religion, or just in nature, and what you see with your eyes?

Why look beyond what you see, when there is so much to see, and so much to do, right before you?

There is more to do in life than can ever be done.

But it seems when you eliminate religion, as the Russians tried to do, humans tend to still want authority. So they go to government instead.

It's not as if government schools and our society aren't brainwashing children already, so when it comes down to it, humans are controlled by three or more forces.

Religion, state, and society. All must end, because all have the same goal: Conformity and obedience, and to steal from us, and brainwash our children. These people are strangers, and they made up a god or rules that I would not know about, had they not spoken it.

Instead of hearing their lies, I would rather instead see only the truth of nature and reality.

To eliminate religion, you don't attack religion.

You kill God.