Is there life on other planets?

in #astronomy7 years ago (edited)

The man from Mars

We know that other planets also have days and nights and seasons. One of the questions that has always proved fascinating to almost everybody is whether there are creatures on any of these other worlds to see these changes. The "man from Mars" has become one of the most popular subjects for jokes. Why Mars? We naturally expect that if life exists on other planets it would be on those most like the earth. These are Mars and Venus, the two planets nearest to us. Venus is toward the sun and Mars is in the other direction.
Of the two, the nearest planet Venus is more like the earth in size and distance from the sun, but Mars has been of more interest because its surface can be seen. Venus has an atmosphere that is apparently mostly carbon dioxide, heavier than that of any other planet, which effectively hides it from view.

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Mars was named for the god of war because of its red color, which is plain even to our unaided eyes. When Mars is closest to the earth and sunlight is reflected directly from it, a very modest telescope will enlarge it to the apparent size of the moon. Although we can't see its features as clearly as the moon's, we have been able to learn more about its surface than about any other object in the sky except the moon.

What are the effects of seasons on Mars?


img source. The ice caps over the pole of Mars shrinks and grows with the seasons.

The most noticeable features of Mars as seen through a telescope are the ice caps at its north and south poles. These appear just as those on earth would to a man on Mars. Since Mars is tilted at about the same angle that earth is, it has seasons as we do. The effect of the seasons can be clearly seen in the growing and shrinking of the polar ice caps. Another seasonal change has convinced most astronomers that there is some form in plant life in low-lying areas. These areas change from blue-green in summer to brown in winter. Seasonal changes also are accompanied by an effect that looks much as if water flowed into these areas of vegetation from the polar caps as they melt.

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A great argument raged among scientists for many years about these markings. Some saw straight canals connecting "oases," from which they concluded that there must be intelligent creatures on Mars who had dug the canals to irrigate their lands. Astronomers at present are very doubtful about these canals, but they do agree that it appears as if moisture, perhaps in the form of vapor, comes down from the polar caps and seems to nourish plant life. They also agree that the lighter areas, which gives Mars its red color, are desert of rusty rocks. They have not been able to detect enough oxygen in the atmosphere to support animal life as we know it, but they do find evidence that both water and oxygen was once plentiful. It is quite possible that there once were creatures on Mars, and it is conceivable that they are still there. But they would have had to find a way to produce life-giving oxygen and water from the rocks by chemical means and also a way to keep warm during the planet's sub-zero nights.

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nice post oliver! I sometimes wonder if finding life on another planet is of great benefit to us and also for instance research like CERN, figuring what particles exist to understand the universe by shooting particles in Billion Dollar constructions.

How much has all of this accomplished, yes we made some new innovations in space that helps us on earth, but all that money what could it have accomplished if it was routed into innovations on earth.
Like making water in the desert by drawing water out of the air, projects that get minimum funding.

If there is intelligent life smarter then us they would have probably found us by now and if they were dumber why would we want to meet them?

Y it might be a novelty that we are not alone, but what are we trying to accomplish?

There are only a few options no? Either God created us and we have to believe this, or we figure out by science that it was all a freak accident that we are alive. Maybe we are in a simulation.

I don't think anyone is helped by knowing the truth, because at least now we could have faith, but if the conclusion is there is no greater purpose we are all here by probability. Then would the world become a better place?

I say stop spending trillions on science that has limited value apart from giving us the feeling we are so smart that we can go to Mars and we might start a colony there.

Instead first figure out how you can provide all human beings with at least their primary needs and a fair chance to life.

As long as we fail to do that, I think we fail as human race prioritizing on leaving the planet when really we have only loved here for such a very short time in terms of the existence of the universe.

Sorry to give a negative spin on your post 😜

You have a great point especially in Africa they must explore the remote areas in the world where extreme poverty is. But the ISS and NASA are established not only for curiosity purposes but it's a two way technology application, their research and innovation when exploring the outer space are also applied for humanity.

Studying astronauts in space also enhances our understanding to the human body, resulting ways to protect the humans from many different ailments.

One good example is the space-based science found an environment which foster new materials for better medicines, improved methods to provide clean water, and better ways to grow enough food for the increasing global population.

Many NASA engineers share their space program technology, one great example is the solar refrigeration technology which does not require electricity and batteries and just storing thermal energy to use it when the sunlight is absent, and can be used anywhere in the world. And yearly, NASA celebrates the most outstanding invention for the year and they share its concept to the public.

Yes I agree Nasa has accomplished great things, but would we not have achieved greater things if we stuck that money into earthly science like figuring out how fusion works.

Probably difficult to answer that question, but like Cern I think there comes a point that the amount of money involved does not weigh up against what they are trying to achieve.
I agree that the ISS/ Nasa have done great things that help us on earth though, but also think too much money is being squandered into figuring out stuff that has a highly likelyhood that it can't be figured out very soon, at least not without another few billions of research work.

How many lifes could have been saved with that money. I think because we are talking about billions we could have saved, god knows how many and maybe this money should be focussed on tackling the biggest issues on this planet, that are causes of femine and providing clean water to everyone.
If you compare that goal to finding the higgs boson 40 years later (what is the rush with that?), I think I rather go for the option of saving lifes.

Also if we don't focus on our planet's sustainibility and use all our resources to tackle that issue first, one could argue it is entirely pointless to find new particles anyway.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/07/05/how-much-does-it-cost-to-find-a-higgs-boson/

From my point of view how many people could have been helped out of poverty by not finding higgs-boson versus how many people are feeling the positive effects of higgs-boson being found.

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/13/how-many-children-can-1-million-save/

Great we can update all our physics books now and we can celebrate another nobel price being won. But what did it achieve for the rest of the world.

I greatly believe earth provides us all that we need. I sometimes even wonder whether we come up with new inventions at all or if science/ innovations are slowly just being fed to us.

What I mean is, do we accomplish innovations by our own doing or well if this is a simulation that we live in, does the simulation give new info away about how it works to keep us going with the next big thing 😄

Bit like the double split experiment, info is only there if you consciously measure it.

cool post oliver! :) keep up the deep thoughts.. :P

yeah @chinito i wrote that quiet midnight time that's why . haha

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