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RE: Altruism Is Bullshit

in #anthropology7 years ago

The point is that you cannot say you're not challenging the existence of something immediately after you say you don't believe in it because saying you don't believe in it is consequently challenging the very existence of it.

The same cannot be applied to altruism, because how do you define, practise or prove it. Everyone has their own definition of it, varying in magnitude.

Seems the qualifiers are incredibly basic so I don't see what is there to vary in magnitude.

What is altruism?

See Above.

How it can be practised in your life?

Again, see above.

Has there been any proven studies done to validate its existence?

It's besides the point, the only measure of it's existence is that at least ONE being practices such things. It doesn't necessitate ANY consensus but obviously consensus is achieved simply by the Definition of the term.

Why should one believe in something that has not been witnessed or is vague?

You shouldn't but I don't see whats vague about altruism.

One cannot be forced to believe in something that is not practised / proven / have proper reasoning.

No you cannot be forced, but nobody was forcing you, and what you say in "not practiced/ prove/ proper reasoning" is Denial. First it takes only one being to do such a thing for Altruism to exist, and second you're asking for Reasoning when its simply The Golden Rule and secondly it doesn't hinge on Reasoning, people can do this simply out of selflessness and care for others.

He who seeks a reason for everything, subverts reason.

In addition i would add that in my original post, the condition was under "first sign of distress", survival would be more important than anything else.

I don't buy it. Did you see the monkey video I posted, is that not Altruism?

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I will surely watch the video.

I am not denying anything simply i do not believe in it. But that does not allow me to challenge it. My initial post meant: In real life, who is going to sacrifice oneself in distressful situation. There is nothing contradictory in there.

A proven definition here:

Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe. Consequently, agnosticism puts aside not only the greater part of popular theology, but also the greater part of anti-theology. On the whole, the "bosh" of heterodoxy is more offensive to me than that of orthodoxy, because heterodoxy professes to be guided by reason and science, and orthodoxy does not.

— Thomas Henry Huxley

Agnosticism

Meanwhile definition of altruism on Wiki

Altruism or selflessness is the principle or practice of concern for the welfare of others. It is a traditional virtue in many cultures and a core aspect of various religious traditions and secular worldviews, though the concept of "others" toward whom concern should be directed can vary among cultures and religions.

The line though the concept of "others" toward whom concern should be directed can vary among cultures and religions. is what makes it vague without universal consensus. Who are "others"? Wide interpretation across different cultures is in the article.

Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe. Consequently, agnosticism puts aside not only the greater part of popular theology, but also the greater part of anti-theology. On the whole, the "bosh" of heterodoxy is more offensive to me than that of orthodoxy, because heterodoxy professes to be guided by reason and science, and orthodoxy does not.

Does tomorrow exist? What about Love? kindness? Compassion? honor? Nobility?

The line though the concept of "others" toward whom concern should be directed can vary among cultures and religions. is what makes it vague without universal consensus. Who are "others"? Wide interpretation across different cultures is in the article.

No it's what makes it vague in that sole context. Universal consensus clearly is established in the very word and that it defines something specific which hardly could be described with another word but others, and which among many culture there's different foods and different cooking, the act of eating is still masticating with your mouth, so is altruism varied and according to different people differently but the principle, the fundamental aspect is always the same.

Why would variations of the same universal act, ever cast doubt on the act itself. I find it odd that you have lived your whole life and nobody let you pass them on the freeway or went out of their way to not oblige you and didn't do it because they were intimidated or otherwise snared by you into it. I'd say if you want to find out about altruism go to those that practice it.

People do good things voluntarily and practise as well. So, above things do exist in real life.

Just under certain context. I don't know. Anyways, it was a good discussion.

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