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RE: The Landlord Analogy

in #anarchy8 years ago (edited)

If you own property why do you have to pay property taxes. Does that not imply "the government" owns "your property" And you have to pay them for renting.
Another perspective.
You are renting the place from "them", and as long as you pay them you can call yourself "the owner" according to them. If you stop paying rent, you will see who the real owner is.
pretending/thinking you are "the owner", is an illusion you hold up, for whatever reason.

But you saying you are "the owner" while paying rent for using your property.
would be the equivalent of one of your renters pretending to be and calling themselves " the owner" of the property they rent from you. Even if they rented it out to someone else that still would not make them the owner.

If you own something you do not pay rent for the usage of that thing, you don't have to ask permission to use it, and if someone would take it from you cause you did not pay them it is called theft. If someone can decide for you when, how etc. you may use a thing, than that means they own the thing.

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If you own property why do you have to pay property taxes. Does that not imply "the government" owns "your property" And you have to pay them for renting.

That was the condo part of the analogy.

You are renting the place from "them", and as long as you pay them you can call yourself "the owner" according to them. If you stop paying rent, you will see who the real owner is.
pretending/thinking you are "the owner", is an illusion you hold up, for whatever reason.

Well, yes. Private land ownership is governed by law, what I really own is a piece of paper that says I have the rights to this property. Failing that, what would you claim defines ownership of property?

But you saying you are "the owner" while paying rent for using your property.
would be the equivalent of one of your renters pretending to be and calling themselves " the owner" of the property they rent from you. Even if they rented it out to someone else that still would not make them the owner.

Again: Condos.

If you own something

How do you define owning something?

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"Well, yes. Private land ownership is governed by law, what I really own is a piece of paper that says I have the rights to this property. Failing that, what would you claim defines ownership of property?"

You can't give license concerning something you don't own. If land possession is merely akin to exchanging license agreements then this again highlights the question of how did the government procure the land in the first place? It obviously didn't buy it from it's citizens because it doesn't give ownership of land to it's citizens, it simply grants a license agreement to use the land. So how did the government get the land in the first place? Ownership is the result of creating something, homesteading, or receiving in voluntary exchange. So how did the government get it? If the government didn't create it, homestead it or receive it voluntarily then they should have no ability to license it, ergo rent metaphor ergo taxation.

The funny thing is you're using the government definition of ownership. Government has literally defined how you can own something, and you're trying to say government can't own something by its own definition.

Remember tribal cultures don't even have a concept of land ownership, and I think private land ownership itself is a relatively new concept (I just haven't been able to find a date.)

The reality is that without government defining how land can be owned, it would fall to "possession is 9/10 of the law" or "might makes right."

Either way, the important part of the analogy is that you chose to live here knowing the conditions.

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